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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015

      1. The bigger problem with the Catholic church & LGBT issues isn't just stance on marriage equality but fundamental incoherence of teaching

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      2. Unlike evangelicals, Catholic church acknowledges many gays & lesbians are born that way. Didn't "choose lifestyle" & "can't be cured."

      5 replies 11 retweets 15 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      3. The church also argues that gays and lesbians shouldn't be discriminated against because of their condition.

      3 replies 8 retweets 12 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      4. But in contradiction to points #2 and #3, church also opposes marriage equality & other measures of civic equality for LGBT.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      5. I don't see how the Catholic Church's position is tenable within its own terms, let alone from the many outside objections to be raised.

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      6. One root problem is that natural law teachings & modern human rights philosophy sometimes at odds, but church wants to affirm both.

      5 replies 7 retweets 19 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      7. RT @SFFFan42 Objection. The Churchs doctrine is that homosexual attrection/disposition isn't sinful, but activity is.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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      8. But "homosexual attrection/disposition isn't sinful, but activity is" also seems incoherent. Means LGBT doomed to loveless life.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015

      9. Of course church says it sees celibacy as a good thing. But difference between vocational celibacy of priest/nun & forced celibacy.

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        2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2015
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          10. Priest/nun are celibate in imitation of Christ but gays/lesbians are enjoined to be celibate just because they are born that way.

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        3. Joel Sharpton‏ @therogueslife 30 Sep 2015
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          @HeerJeet objection, problem lies in the basic sex is for procreation doctrine. If sex is not ever for more than children, no room for LGBT

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        1. Eric Kleefeld‏ @EricKleefeld 30 Sep 2015
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          @HeerJeet It's the kind of thing that gets everyone chatting about the applicant pool for the vocational celibacy.

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        1. Ryan‏ @RyanWithCupcake 30 Sep 2015
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          @HeerJeet It emphasizes discernment for priests/religious because not all are capable of celibacy but then expects it from all gays/lesbians

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        2. Clare Coffey‏ @ClareCoffey 30 Sep 2015
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          @HeerJeet forced celibacy also applies to someone married, but spouse unable or unwilling to have sex; sex just isn't a right for Catholics

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        3. Clare Coffey‏ @ClareCoffey 30 Sep 2015
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          @HeerJeet and framing sex and romantic fulfillment as a human right runs you into some odd problems of its own! who owes you sex?

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        1. Brian Saunders‏ @oldbrit2011 18 Sep 2017
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          Celibacy is not forced on anyone in the Catholic Church. If celibacy doesn't appeal, don't become a priest, or nun requiring vow of chastity

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