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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      3. What's Rumsfeld saying here? "Our mistake in Iraq is that we were too noble & naive. We had faith in democracy but Iraqis not up for it."

      13 replies 21 retweets 16 likes
    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      4. The mistake here is to think the goal was meaningful democracy in any way, as opposed to a pliant Iraq with trappings of electoral system

      8 replies 15 retweets 20 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      5. The thinking was that shock & aw would not only melt the Iraqi army but also cow the population sufficiently to go along with occupation

      7 replies 6 retweets 13 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      6. @normative makes the point that democracy in Iraq wasn't a realistic goal. That is almost certainly true but also, I think, irrelevant.

      4 replies 4 retweets 6 likes
    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      7. Goal wasn't democratic Iraq but a compliant Iraq. The damning thing about Iraq was was they couldn't even achieve a compliant Iraq.

      12 replies 15 retweets 19 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      8. The people who did sincerely believe in democratizing Iraq often pointed to post-WWII Germany & Japan to say it was reasonable goal.

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      9. Why was USA able to reshape Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan into (limited, flawed) democracies. Answer is actually complicated

      4 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      10. One big factor is the sheer scale of horror that was unleashed: firebombing cities & dropping atomic weapons will cow the survivors.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      11. But post-war German & Japanese elites also compliant because they feared USSR & later communist China.

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    10. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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      12. Fear of communism meant that the conservative (often fascist) elites in those societies were eager to work with American occupiers.

      4 replies 2 retweets 9 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015

      13. Finally, what democratization occurred in in post-WWII Germany & Japan came from grass-roots labor movements (often resisted by USA).

      9:06 PM - 8 Jun 2015 from Toronto, Ontario
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        2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2015
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          14. During the American occupation, the Japanese labour movement made a big push for democratic reform. Kennan etc. resisted but not totally

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