2. Rumsfeld's statement is here: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-08/donald-rumsfeld-george-w-bush-was-wrong-about-iraq …
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@HeerJeet Also American conquerors (mostly) seen by Germans & Japanese as new replacement authorities/authoritarians. Democracy secondary.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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13. Finally, what democratization occurred in in post-WWII Germany & Japan came from grass-roots labor movements (often resisted by USA).
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14. During the American occupation, the Japanese labour movement made a big push for democratic reform. Kennan etc. resisted but not totally
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@HeerJeet Wonder if there's another ingredient tho. Fear of Islamism hasn't turned mideast elites into democrats of late. Quite the opposite -
@HeerJeet I wonder if Germany and Japan aren't just huge outliers. Intuitively feels there should be common factors in their democratization - Show replies
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@HeerJeet You're forgetting years of neoconservative ambitions for a restructured Middle East fragmented along sectarian lines -
@RaniaKhalek That's a fair point. In that sense war was a success. But I do think they wanted a stable compliant client state in Iraq. - Show replies
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