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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
      Replying to @aujangabadi

      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens You're assuming that the purpose of these Hugo nominees is to challenge sexism rather than honor fine work.

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    2. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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      @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens No, that is what you are assuming. Statistically speaking, fine work in SF should follow demo lines.

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
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      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens There's no reason to think that.

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    4. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens around a mean, but the results of past few years are *far* beyond typical SD. (2/2)

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
      Replying to @aujangabadi

      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens Samuel Delany was only black writer of SFF in 1960s (less than 1% of field). He had more than 1% impact.

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    6. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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      @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens And yet he fits the demographic model. How many Hugos did he win, %-wise? He's within SD of demos. (1/2)

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
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      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens He started publishing 1965. But 1970 he had 4 nominations and 2 wins. In field where he was only black.

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    8. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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      @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens Do the math. 2 wins in 5 years out of ~10 awards per year. So 2/50, or ~4% representation. Well within bounds.

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
      Replying to @aujangabadi

      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens 10 awards per year for writing fiction? (He wouldn't have been eligible for fan awards).

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    10. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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      @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens NG's chart shows total dist. of Hugos across gender. I did the same wrt Delaney.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
      Replying to @aujangabadi

      @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens You assumed there were 10 Hugo winners in fiction per year in 1960s. That's just not true.

      12:01 PM - 21 Apr 2015
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        1. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens No, I am assuming that 10 Hugos were awarded *period*. (Which was wrong, it was 6 during the 60s.)

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        1. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens The point here being that the statistical disconnect then and now are nowhere near equivalent.

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        2. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens If women are 20% of submitting authors and 50% of awards, that is *huge* over-representation--statistically sig.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
          Replying to @aujangabadi

          @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens This is an absurd argument.

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        1. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens It is entirely possible that the women were simply better writers than men during that period, but a return (1/2)

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        2. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens to demographic dist. of Hugos would not, in and of itself, be indicative of any sexism. (2/2)

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Apr 2015
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          @aujangabadi @NathanielGivens Return to demographic not natural but driven by Rabid Puppies slate.

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        1. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens Delaney, on the other hand, is a textbook statistical outlier. He is one data sample with, as you yourself (1/2)

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        1. Aujang‏ @aujangabadi 21 Apr 2015
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          @HeerJeet @NathanielGivens stated, enormous impact. (2/2)

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