8. Vietnam fiasco was blamed on WASP elite ("Best and Brightest") but that blame not really accompanied by sense of group responsibility.
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9. After Wall Street crash of 1929, you didn't hear WASPs saying, "man, we really screwed the pooch on that one."
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10. WASP privilege (and more broadly white privilege) is privilege of being seen as an individual & not as a representative of a group.
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10. The WASP miscreant, the WASP ne'er-do-well, the WASP criminal has freedom to be an individual failure, not communal shame.
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11. Persistence of communal shame shows limits of "how Jews became white" model.
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12. Jews (at least non-black ones) are pretty much seen as white; but their sense of communal shame shows commonality with racial minorities
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13. Was asked if communal shame is a good thing or a bad thing. Should we all aspire to WASP nonchalance? I genuinely don't know.
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14. Serious question: are there any examples of WASPs feeling collective guilt for actions of individual group member?
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15. There is a sense of national shame (say over treatment of First Nations or Slaves) but that's different than ethnic shame.
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16. As Canadian I feel shame over Residential Schools (where Native children beaten & killed) but that's different than my Sikh ethnic shame
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17. Example: as Sikh I felt shame over killing of Indira Gandhi & Air India bombing (despite obviously being unconnected with them).
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18. So ethnic shame comes from events happening right now, as against historical shame for things my nation did in past.
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19. Thought experiment: Let's say Sterling was George Featherweight III, WASP patrician. Would WASPs feel equivalent of shande far di goyim?
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