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    1. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling Jun 4

      John Ganz Retweeted Libertarian Party

      huh would you look at thathttps://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1532802789184872448 …

      John Ganz added,

      Libertarian PartyVerified account @LPNational
      The Libertarian Party is now a home for @RonPaul supporters. We welcome you with open arms. We represent the tradition of Mises and Rothbard and are eternally grateful to @lewrockwell @jeffdeist and everyone at @mises for keeping their legacy alive.
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      4 replies 6 retweets 101 likes
    2. 'Weird Alex' Pareene‏ @pareene Jun 4
      Replying to @lionel_trolling

      one of the non-racist ex-libertarians on here should write an insider history of the movement from the Bush era to now, would be genuinely interesting

      5 replies 3 retweets 58 likes
    3. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 4
      Replying to @pareene @lionel_trolling

      You need to go back further to the Brown decision or at least the Civil Rights Act. While I think most classical liberals opposed racism, they were disturbed by the use of government power to end racist policies.

      4 replies 2 retweets 20 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jun 4
      Replying to @BruceBartlett @pareene @lionel_trolling

      Exactly, the roots go back further I think to von Mises pro-fascist politics. In 1940s Mises worried that Nazis were discrediting the valuable side of race science.

      4 replies 3 retweets 32 likes
    5. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 4
      Replying to @HeerJeet @pareene @lionel_trolling

      It's like the old debate about how much intolerance can a tolerant society tolerate. If you believe that government is the ultimate evil, then using government--even in the pursuit of virtuous goals--is a doubled-edged sword. Racism may be evil, but government is more evil.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 4
      Replying to @BruceBartlett @HeerJeet and

      Back when I was a libertarian, I don't recall anyone advocating racism on libertarian grounds. But neither did any libertarian think racism was a particularly serious problem. THE problem was government and to the extent racism was problem it's because it was government-enforced.

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    7. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic Jun 4
      Replying to @BruceBartlett @HeerJeet and

      Someone a few years ago — maybe @delong? — posted a long letter from Robert Heinlein to H. Beam Piper from the early 1960s on civil rights. The letter is Heinlein unwittingly demonstrating that libertarianism had nothing at all to offer the victims of racism.

      4 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jun 4
      Replying to @JimHenleyMusic @BruceBartlett and

      Yes, I remember that. Notable because Heinlein didn't see the problem with racially exclusive racial covenant contracts.

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    9. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic Jun 4
      Replying to @HeerJeet @BruceBartlett and

      They’re contracts! The most sacred thing! I mean sure they bind parties not present and in perpetuity but hey

      2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jun 4
      Replying to @JimHenleyMusic @BruceBartlett and

      In the case of Rothbard though it goes beyond the typical blindness of whites to systematic racism. He knew what racism was and he openly embraced it.

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        2. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic Jun 4
          Replying to @HeerJeet @BruceBartlett and

          Absolutely the founder of Students for Thurmond did, yes

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic Jun 4
          Replying to @JimHenleyMusic @HeerJeet and

          I genuinely don’t see why the Mises faction even cares about the LP at this point except force of habit. The Trumpified GOP is the Rockwell-Rothbard Report brought to life. Any paleolibertarian wanting to do politics can do so in a major party!

          2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
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        2. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 4
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JimHenleyMusic and

          Murray knew libertarians were a small minority that needed allies to succeed. He first reached out to the New Left on war and civil liberties, but that failed. Then he reached out to neo-confederates who hated the federal government for their own reasons. He was more successful.

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        3. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic Jun 4
          Replying to @BruceBartlett @HeerJeet and

          For the vantage on 2022 it’s hard not to see the “Paleolibertarian Manifesto” (whatever it was actually titled) as one of the most successful political programs of all time.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 5
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JimHenleyMusic and

          I think Murry had the typical libertarian's skepticism about racial discrimination. See page 429 https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/friedman-new-individualist-review …pic.twitter.com/TvRfUVv6GP

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Bruce Bartlett‏ @BruceBartlett Jun 5
          Replying to @BruceBartlett @HeerJeet and

          On the other hand, he did make nice with hard-core racists.https://www.businessinsider.com/exposing-the-racist-history-of-libertarianism-and-murray-rothbard-2011-10 …

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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