The debate isn't about "humiliating Russia" it's about how many and how much of their atrocities they get away with, and profit from. Currently it looks like there's no clear path to any answer other than "most of them".
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They don't seem likely to leave eastern Ukraine, which they're fixing to annex. They have chunks of Georgia, of Moldova. They're likely to annex Byelorussia, maybe some 'Stans. Estonia is rightly worried. And then there's the shipping blockade, the grain thefts, the oil sales.
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