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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 21

    Jeet Heer Retweeted Oleksiy Kuzmenko

    1. Really good thread, from a deeply informed analyst, debunking some of the propaganda that we've seen about the how Azov Regiment has supposedly abandoned its fascist ideology.https://twitter.com/kooleksiy/status/1526972935646371841 …

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    Oleksiy KuzmenkoVerified account @kooleksiy
    In the Azov Regiment’s magazine“Black sun”, fighters, AR figures contemporaneously wrote that the launch of a political wing was meant to allow the Regiment to influence politics. Far-right Azov movement has specialized branches with specific functions. AR - military, NC-politics https://twitter.com/stcolumbia/status/1526954113635913728 …
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    • ren doesnt stand with ukraine or russia Zero Guerre 😷 🇵🇸 Walter Wiseman zaheer aslam Rebelmama Points Northe Anna Kipnis 🇺🇦 Carl Parmley Doug Konkel
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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 21

        2. The whole Azov business really illustrates how disinformation industry is a project to impose a consensus around issues that are in fact contentious and need to be argued out and battled in the political realm.

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      3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 21

        3. The honest political argument would be "Yes, the Azov regiment is fascist, but Ukraine is facing an existential threat and in war you make the alliances you can, as with the Western allies working with Stalin in WWII." A difficult argument but worth taking seriously.

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      4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 21

        4. Instead of making the difficult but serious political case, advocates instead are trying to use the language of debunking disinformation to obfuscate reality. This in itself will, in the long run, undermine trust and ability to form consensus.pic.twitter.com/ywodG1SvhB

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      2. Bill Bereza‏ @bereza May 21
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Bill Bereza Retweeted Oleksiy Kuzmenko

        But remember this.https://twitter.com/kooleksiy/status/1527084241598676994?t=WDflHyN6CXyljTs3RAtoaw&s=19 …

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        Oleksiy KuzmenkoVerified account @kooleksiy
        I'll finish this "Reimagined Azov vs Facts" thread by saying again that "I sincerely hope Russia gets an even worse beating in this war than the pounding accuracy and facts took during the recent expedited reinvention of the Azov Regiment’s history and image by media and experts"
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      3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 21
        Replying to @bereza

        Yes, that's in the thread I linked to.

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
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      2. J'accuse le juge John Roberts!!‏ @malawiflames May 21
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Shockingly, North American media is completely ignoring this story. Probably because Putin used them to justify his invasion? What am I missing?

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      3. Petro Shuhurov‏ @GatecrasherUA May 21
        Replying to @malawiflames @HeerJeet

        You're missing pretty much everything, because re-framing the original thread as "debunking Azov-are-not-Nazi propaganda" is disingenuous at very best.

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      1. Albert Alam‏ @albertvplc May 21
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Well, if we were completely honest, there are Neonazis all across the Fmr USSR. For example @DRogozin is a Nazi. The reason is Russians taught in details about Nazis to explain whom USSR opposed to in WW2. If you’re against Soviets: Nazi ideology the first thing comes to mind.

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      1. Xavier Koenig‏ @xavkoenig May 21
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Can someone similarly fill us in on the Wagner Group?

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      2. OP.PeanutButterSuccess‏ @RattMathkamp May 21
        Replying to @HeerJeet @mehdirhasan

        Yes there are hardcore fascists in Azov. But also I've noticed a lot of people who identify as Nazis because to be a Nazi in that part of the world is defined primarily as hardcore opposition to Russia. It's hard to parse out the actual politics of a meme as misused as "Nazi."

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