brewing a hot take that the reason the 17th amendment is bad is not because there’s too much democracy but because it is an impediment to turning the senate into the house of lords. it gives the institution a veneer of democracy that makes root and branch reform more difficult
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tbh as long as American elections are run by 1) gerrymandering 2) FPTP it's kinda meaningless to consider the House more 'democratic' than the Senate
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Surely it was easier to "neuter" the power of HoL as it was aristocracy chamber & not elected unlike Senators. When Lloyd George went to war with HoL re his people's budget in 09 they had landslide nos from 06 & had 2 go thru 2 1910 elections they barely won losing their maj
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They did not barely win those elections. Labour and the Irish were only ever going to align with Liberals. Both comfortable victories, even if a slight return to earth from 1906
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The UKHoL has evolved toward the Cdn Senate model: appointed by the gov't of the day, and therefore lacking in legitimacy and rarely interfering in the legislative process. OTOH recent subconstitutional changes in how senators chosen has resulted in more uppitiness.
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One of the odd things about Cdn politics is how right-wing (by our standards) parties admire the US Senate. One of the Reform Party's key planks was an Equal (i.e. senators per province) Effective Elected Senate.
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Fascinating point Jeet!
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Ehh, the 1911 Parliament Act was always radical as it was passed after the Lord's vetoed the Liberal Party's "people's budget" that raised taxes on the rich to pay for welfare and defence expenditure.
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