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    1. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling Apr 16

      Chomsky's "way the world works" argument doesn't make sense either on a moral or a level level. First, of all you could apply the same logic to Palestine: "Well, look you just need to accept you're a defeated people, continuing to resist is just creating bloodshed etc."

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Apr 16
      Replying to @lionel_trolling

      Any plausible 2-state solution, including ones acceptable to Palestinian leaders (and presumably Chomsky) , would involve much more concessions of sovereignty & (proportionally) land than then Ukrainians are being asked.

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    3. Obama freed the gays  🇺🇦‏ @Nitzky89 Apr 16
      Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling

      "asked"?

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Apr 16
      Replying to @Nitzky89 @lionel_trolling

      Negotiations are going on right now. The stuff under negotiation is what is being disputed. It's weird for outsiders to insist on maximalist positions that go beyond what Ukraine is staking out.

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    5. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling Apr 16
      Replying to @HeerJeet @Nitzky89

      i am not asking for a maximalist position

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Apr 16
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @Nitzky89

      The position you were articulating sounded like you think Ukraine should continue fighting at the expense of negotiations, since war is going well for them. Which makes a certain degree of sense but carries very high costs as well.

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        2. Krankenbrüder‏ @CrankLawyer Apr 16
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @Nitzky89

          The negotiations are as mythical as the two state solution.

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        3. Faeelin‏ @faeelin Apr 16
          Replying to @CrankLawyer @HeerJeet and

          Russia recently complained Ukraine’s view hardened after Bucha.

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        2. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling Apr 16
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Nitzky89

          i thought outsiders shouldn’t decide when they should sue for peace

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        3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling Apr 16
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @HeerJeet @Nitzky89

          i’m not a position to dictate terms to ukraine i’m saying the arguments people are making are bad and strange

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        2. McGruff‏ @McGruffCT Apr 16
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @Nitzky89

          Is someone asking Ukraine to negotiate?

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        3. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax Apr 16
          Replying to @McGruffCT @HeerJeet and

          Chomsky is. That's how this thread started.

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        2. adanthar‏ @adanthar Apr 16
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @Nitzky89

          What negotiations? There've been a series of ultimatums and then a "okay we have your positions, we'll take this to our boss who's the only one who can make a decision" message, followed by a "negotiations have broken down" message. Real negotiations haven't happened yet.

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        3. here to laugh‏ @n0tparticular Apr 16
          Replying to @adanthar @HeerJeet and

          Negotiations, meaning they pretend to be sincere so that they can regroup and gain the initiative through sneak attacks.

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        2. Nathan Goldwag  🇺🇦‏ @GoldwagNathan Apr 16
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @Nitzky89

          I mean, the thing is, the potential terms that Chomsky outlined aren't unreasonable, but they're ones that RUS has already ruled one. If you're calling for DNR/LNR to be re-integrated into UKR as autonomous regions, you're calling for continued UKR victories to gain that.

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        3. Nathan Goldwag  🇺🇦‏ @GoldwagNathan Apr 16
          Replying to @GoldwagNathan @HeerJeet and

          Or, in other words, a negotiated settlement is good/inevitable, but the idea that it can be done without continued military resistance only makes sense in a world where the US is the true cause of the war and RUS demands are limited and static. Which I do not believe is true.

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