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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 29

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Michael Brendan Dougherty

      This tweet is sparking an interesting debate about Russian war aims and to what extent, if any, they have been scaled back. I think though that local aims of war can't be separated from Russia's larger standing in world.https://twitter.com/michaelbd/status/1508828148649058305 …

      Jeet Heer added,

      Michael Brendan DoughertyVerified account @michaelbd
      Are people really going with this line? Russia has lost and so will have to settle for obtaining the fake war aims it announced, rather than the real ones we know, via private revelation, that they truly sought.
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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 29

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Dmitri Alperovitch

      This list is Putin's narrow war aims and you can plausibly argue it's still in play. But what does it mean to gain these and have Russia ever more isolated & Europe re-armed?https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1497225449755263009 …

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      Dmitri AlperovitchVerified account @DAlperovitch
      Putin articulated his ultimatums for Kyiv: - Recognize Crimea as Russian - Rejection of NATO accession - No weapons supplies from the West - LNR and DNR gain territory that the regions had pre 2014 Last one particularly interesting: suggests he intends to keep DNR/LNR around
      10:01 AM - 29 Mar 2022
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        2. Josh Fruhlinger‏ @jfruh Mar 29
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          i mean i think people (rightly) interpreted "denazification" as being at least aspirationally about regime change

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        3. Josh Fruhlinger‏ @jfruh Mar 29
          Replying to @jfruh @HeerJeet

          also the wording of the initial ultimatum was not joining any "rival blocs" which i think was meant to encompass the EU as well as NATO (tho i guess by not spelling it out they had the opporutnity to trade it away)

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        1. Nathan Goldwag  🇺🇦‏ @GoldwagNathan Mar 29
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          If the deal being talked about now happens (big, BIG if) and UKR gets security guarantees and EU membership in return for giving up NATO then it's very hard to see it as an improvement over the status quo for Russia.

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        1. tiburke‏ @tiburke Mar 29
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          tiburke Retweeted Михайло Подоляк

          Ukraine grants only the NATO concession, with US troops in UA instead. The other aims are not, and never were, in play.https://twitter.com/Podolyak_M/status/1508783642209931272 …

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          Михайло ПодолякVerified account @Podolyak_M
          Briefly. Security guarantees treaty with an enhanced analogue of Article 5 of NATO. Guarantor states (USA, UK, Turkey, France, Germany etc.) legally actively involved in protecting 🇺🇦 from any aggression. Implementation through a referendum & parliaments of the guarantor states.
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        1. Edrial  🏴‍☠️‏ @Edrial_00 Mar 29
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          It should be fairly obvious that this list, assuming every point is conceded by Ukraine, wouldn't make the invasion worth the geo-strategic cost that Putin must have been expecting. And therefore this list must itself smaller than the gains Putin was hoping for

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        1. Soaps and Sci-Fi‏ @SoapsandSciFi Mar 29
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          I saw a tweet saying no one other than Putin has any idea what his plans were, which I would agree with. As it is, lots of people on here have a vested interest in Putin always being tough, smart, and right - similar to Trump, they have made him their ideal and can't let him go.

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