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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 18

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Isaac Butler

      This is a good thread but what I'd like to underscore is that the problem of shaming/shunning is coterminous with social life itself, is likely to be more extreme in democracies (as explained by Tocqueville) & has no easy policy solutions.https://twitter.com/parabasis/status/1504827375913107465 …

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      Isaac Butler @parabasis
      I don't think censoriousness on the Left (what I guess we call Cancel Culture) is as big a deal as, like, anti-CRT bills or the way anti-Zionists get treated in the academia, or the timidity around LGBTQ characters in tentpole films that will play in China. But it does exist.
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 18

      I mean if one wanted to come up with policy solutions to shaming/shunning I'd suggest making people less easily punishable: so end at will employment, extend tenure beyond small group of academics to wider society, and maybe have UBI. That would make eccentric opinion easier.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 18

      Are we willing to radically remake employment conditions so that free speech is easier? I'm game for it but I rarely if ever see the free speech brigade talk about such things.

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        2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 18

          More broadly, the key point is the one made by @jakebackpack which is that in terms of what people can express, there's never been more free speech now than anytime in history. (The one possible exception is Weimar Germany) https://www.gawker.com/media/speaking-freely-has-never-been-easier …pic.twitter.com/K9i28DUR6n

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 18

          Jeet Heer Retweeted

          In any case, it's hard to take the "social shunning" stuff as a serious problem when we're seeing actual anti-LGBT laws with real chilling effect and also a wave of Russophobia blacklisting, with little liberal pushback https://twitter.com/BlakeProf/status/1504854545800654848 …

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        1. radicaledward‏ @radicalydde Mar 18
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Easier to complain about how people stopped laughing at gay jokes

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        1. Corduroy Cordoba‏ @GorgeousJoel Mar 18
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          The only solution I've ever seen from them is that speech should be much more restricted to ensure that it's free.

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        1. Bram Reichbaum  🌠‏ @Bram_R Mar 18
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          It's about their feelings more often than economics, but they'd probably turn down socialized therapy too

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        1. Eric the Red‏ @RealEric4Real Mar 18
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          rarely? I’ve literally never seen them mention it.

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        1. The Clockwork Pope‏ @marcducharme Mar 18
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          Shaming and shunning is a great way to enforce social mores without requiring the power of the state. I think we should be doing more of it, not less. It’s of a piece with not tolerating the intolerant.

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        2. Colin Spacetwinks‏ @spacetwinks Mar 18
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          i mean you did sign that harper's letter and after facing pushback went "i hope maybe next time people will make a letter actually about the lack of real worker's protections people have" and whaddya know, no such letter has materialized

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        3. Colin Spacetwinks‏ @spacetwinks Mar 18
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          maybe you could materialize that letter and shop it around to the same people who signed the harper's letter and report back who gets on board and who gave you the cold shoulder

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