I mean, wait until that guy learns about basically every other country in Europe.
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Correct. Nationalism’s relationship to other ideologies is opportunistic. It grows on them, uses them. The more pressure a nation’s existence comes under, the more likely that the coalition of nationalsists will span the left-right political spectrum.
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I’m growing a bit weary of Jesse’s apparent desire to be Greenwald/Taibbi-north.
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Keep it simple. Cheering for good over evil, right over wrong. Those lines have been blurred so much lately. These lines are clear.
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I agree with that but there is always a main nationalism or a more accepted nationalism. And Ukranian one is what support Stepan Bandera
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Oh for the love of God, everything Ukraine is today is a reflection of their complete subjugation under the USSR. They were systematically starved, and their were forced resettlements all over Ukraine of Russians and other ethnicities, that distorted a more cohesive people.
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Are there any examples of Nationalism that don’t oppress minority (and even majority) groups?
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Hard to take a “hey, let’s not oversimplify things” argument seriously that begins with such a gross and irresponsible over-simplification. Also, who is cheering “Ukrainian nationalism” anyway? People are supporting Ukrainian self-determination.
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Exactly. Even during the WWII, Ukrainian nationalism was a political spectrum, with even OUN Nationalists being killed by the Gestapo/NKVD. Plus, much of the “Nazi” smears of
nationalism comes from post-war Soviet propaganda.
Source:https://www.worldcat.org/title/jews-and-ukrainians/oclc/865565305 … (pp 268-9)pic.twitter.com/mzX7Msnu20
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