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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Sam Sacks

      1. It's true that progressives are shying away from talking about Ukrainian fascists, sometimes for good reason: not wanting to lend credibility to Putin's cynical & dishonest smearing of all Ukrainian nationalism as fascist, not wanting to criticize people under attackhttps://twitter.com/SamSacks/status/1500830893719666692 …

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      Sam SacksVerified account @SamSacks
      It’s kind of wild that NBC is more willing to have an honest conversation about this than a lot of progressives on Twitter. pic.twitter.com/r4pgtRHFiO
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      2. @DavidKlion & I had a discussion/debate about this in a recent podcast. I think the points we covered got at the nuances: In terms of electoral politics, fascists are very weak in Ukraine (much less so than in other Western countries & indeed in Russia).

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Kevin Rothrock

      3. It absolutely has to be underscored that Putin's smearing of Ukraine as fascist is cynical & hypocritical, not least because Putin is more than willing to ally with and enable fascists (both at home & abroad). I mean look at recent Russian propaganda.https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1500231126606098434 …

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      “we are not fascists! the ukrainians are the nazis! and here’s the video to prove i—ooooooh, okay. right right right right right.” pic.twitter.com/xBdH8d0NoY
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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      4. It's not just that fascists are electorally weak in Ukraine. It's also that the dominant faction in Ukraine is now led by Zelensky, who is Jewish and whose version of nationalism is pluralist and liberal. That counts for a lot.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Jeet Heer

      5. In absolute numbers, the Azov battalion is small. The two worries are: 1) in context of insurgency they could grow 2) mainstream organization, including outside Ukraine, will mainstream them. As here with NATO.https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1501243694590173188 …

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      We're going to need to talk about this. pic.twitter.com/lIXYk1KFWK
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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8

      6. I think it's important to figure out ways to support Ukrainian sovereignty and also marginalize the fascist right. In this discussion with @DavidKlion we delve more into this topic.https://jeetheer.substack.com/p/podcast-putins-plutocrats-are-also?r=bh54&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email …

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        1. Mr. Beverages‏ @j_beverages Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          one way is to not bring them to your country to train them

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        1. tryggth‏ @tryggth Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          https://theintercept.com/2017/08/13/the-misguided-attacks-on-aclu-for-defending-neo-nazis-free-speech-rights-in-charlottesville/ …

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        1. Eliot Sands‏ @Eliotsanders Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          Zelensky should simply give them incredibly dangerous assignments over and over. It’s not like there’s a shortage of those.

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        1. tatere. 🦑‏ @tatere Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          I am also extremely leery of interacting w any of this here on this bird site bc odds on it being an op or echo of an op seem v high.

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        1. Alice@wonderland‏ @izzyqueenof Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          It's more about priorities and in war you just don't have the luxury to figure every problem out. it's just " defeat the enemy". Fine they have a Fascist battalion but we would have too if it was war. We have Nazis and they would presumably be soldiers. Hell they train enough.

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        1. Alice@wonderland‏ @izzyqueenof Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          In the US they are more embedded in the military than we would like to admit. It's that they don't have their own battalion (yet) and to be fair I don't even think they would be fighting on our side. So the "figuring out ways" is rightly not the top concern.

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        1. Alice@wonderland‏ @izzyqueenof Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          Reality is they are there,fighting for Ukraine's freedom and trying to defeat Putin. THAT is our goal too and we won't take their place if they wouldn't be there anymore so if the group who is gonna take their place would get over there ASAP....???🤔 NO? Then move on.

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        2. Dan Kervick‏ @DanMKervick Mar 8
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          A six part tweet to avoid straightforwardly acknowledging Sam’s simple and correct point.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 8
          Replying to @DanMKervick @DavidKlion

          The first tweet said it was true.

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