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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 5

    Jeet Heer Retweeted John Ganz

    The "we'll be welcomed as liberators" thing isn't just propaganda but also ideology: i.e. many of the people who say it also believe it. Bush thought Iraqis would be grateful & was hurt when they weren't. Putin & Russian army have comparable delusionhttps://twitter.com/lionel_trolling/status/1500125440966598660 …

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    John Ganz @lionel_trolling
    apparently commentators in the Russian independent media before it was shut down were saying the Russian tactics were particularly vindictive because they weren't welcomed as expected by Russian-speaking Ukrainians
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    • Kyle DeHoff Jerome Nicolas SirLemonn Andrew Dressel I've got soul, but I'm Ailin😊✌ Ajeet Singh MD MPH Felipe L What's the Frequency, Kenneth? ☮️
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      1. Matt‏ @MCIrwin47 Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        [me when I try to get my kids to turn off the tv to go do an activity that they love] why aren’t you welcoming me as a liberator?!?! *dodges toy*

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      1. Dan Milway‏ @thrilway Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Also a common attitude in the "Freedom Convoy" I think, fwiw

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      1. Dr. Dave Genyáhdë:h  🏳️‍🌈 🪶‏ @DaveAshelman Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Also Vietnam. Also the Bay of Pigs. Also ad nausium

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      2. Amanda Rivkin‏Verified account @amandarivkin Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Some obvious flaws among many with this faulty analogy the Russians first made for whataboutism purposes as someone who is no champion of either wars: 1. Kurds did welcome the Americans 2. Saddam was a brutal dictator, Zelensky is not 3. Insurgency is where comparison is salient

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      3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 5
        Replying to @amandarivkin

        Bush wasn't invading Iraqi Kurdistan (which was already under USA protection) but parts of the country that, while having no love for Saddam, were decidedly cool to occupation. It isn't just Russians who make this analogy & whataboutism just means context & history.

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      2. international man of banality‏ @ManBanality Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Huge numbers of Iraqis enthusiatically greeted the coalition forces as they arrived. In fact, this was so widespread that it became an embarrasement to the Saddam regime, so much so that they started infiltrating the crowds with suicide bombers.

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      3. international man of banality‏ @ManBanality Mar 5
        Replying to @ManBanality @HeerJeet

        The massive crowds also became a hinderence to the coalition convoys.

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      2. ⛧ Stefan Dreier ⛧‏ @s3rp86 Mar 5
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        It's allways bad when you start to believe your own propaganda. From what i've read Ukraine and Russia in the last couple of years went in very different directions and the Russians simply ignored that and still had their old assumptions of Ukraine

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      3. ⛧ Stefan Dreier ⛧‏ @s3rp86 Mar 5
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        This is what allways gets me . At some point people producing propaganda they've known is false actually start to believe their own lies. I don't get it. Must be some psychological phenomenon i don't understand.

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      1. Matthew‏ @Roland00Address Mar 5
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        He bought the ideology for he was from a rich family and this faith plus belief gave his life meaning after personal setbacks. *sigh*

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