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    1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      There’s also the issue of purporting to be journalism, indeed “straight news” to use Robbie’s parlance.

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    2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      I would like to see YouTube crack down on health misinformation, too, but it’s gotta start somewhere and incredibly consequential and politically toxic lies like Trump’s election conspiracies are a logical place to start.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      For all I know, YouTube does insist that health journalists identify false claims about vaccines when they quote disinfo merchants. If they don’t, they should. Twitter has banned Covid disinfo, although enforcement is uneven.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      Should CBS be banned for spreading this false information?pic.twitter.com/8bjDDdC3cG

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    5. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      CBS should *absolutely* say that the mayor is wrong if they know it when it goes to air. If they get called on it and they tell YouTube to fuck off with their “cancel culture”-adjacent rules because they’re too good for that, of course they should get banned.

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      They shouldn't have gone to air with it because other reliable sources which are monitoring radiation, like IAEA, said no radiation so far. To just report a unverified and false claim in this situation is irresponsible.

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    7. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      This is nitpicking CBS’s news decisions on a developing story. Regardless, they are not willfully failing to label disinfo. It’s newsworthy that the mayor of the city is saying radiation levels are rising, it’s also newsworthy that international regulators are saying otherwise.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      They put in deck of tweet mayor's statement without noting it is countered by other evidence. Norm now is when Trump, say, lies, that lie is noted (not repeated) in headline.

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    9. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

      It's not clear here whether you're claiming YouTube's application of its standard is inconsistent, or saying you think the standard itself is bad. You seem to be going back and forth between the two.

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    10. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism Mar 3
      Replying to @studentactivism @HeerJeet @beyerstein

      YouTube doesn't have a blanket "no false statements" policy, as far as I can tell. They have a policy that says that certain specific claims (about the 2020 election, in this case) are false AND will be regulated in specific ways on their service.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @studentactivism @beyerstein

      Yeah, that rule makes no sense to me (since they allow other enormous falsehoods). In general reporters should aspire to report accurately. In case of reporting what Trump says, it's wrong to assume audience are little kids who need repetitive messages he's lying

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        1. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          Seems to me the YouTube standard is that the 2020 election claims are (1) matters of settled, resolved fact, and also (2) the subject of widespread ongoing corrosive misinformation. None of the examples you've raised in the thread satisfies both those conditions.

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        2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @studentactivism

          Absolutely anyone, including little kids, can watch shows on YouTube with zero context. It’s simply not a reliable assumption that your audience knows Trump’s lying.

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        3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
          Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet @studentactivism

          A large percentage of the US population affirms a belief at least some of Trump’s abject falsehoods.

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