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    1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3

      Lindsay Beyerstein Retweeted Robby Soave

      For years, disinfo merchants exploited a loophole whereby straight news declined to call lies “lies.” But now best practices for straight news include calling out lies whenever they are repeated. Professional standards have evolved.https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1499520827246759936 …

      Lindsay Beyerstein added,

      Robby SoaveVerified account @robbysoave
      YouTube suspended The Hill—which produces Rising, the show I co-host with @ryangrim and @KimIversenShow—for election misinfo. It's a crazy story that shows how this policy goes much, much, much further than anyone knows, and actually imperils journalism. https://reason.com/2022/03/03/youtube-rising-the-hill-election-misinformation-suspension/ …
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    2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3

      YouTube’s policy does not outlaw straight news, it enforces the new norm that you do not repeat claims that you know to be false without stating that they are false. This is a good norm that benefits journalism and the general public and penalizes liars.

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    3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3

      Yeah, sometimes it‘s annoying and makes a sentence awkward to have to insert the word “falsely,” but it’s worth it not to let liars live rent-free in our coverage and in our audience’s minds.

      2 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      If this stuff should be penalized shouldn't spreading false stories about snake island or Ghost of Kyiv also be?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      The standard is things that are known to be false. All reputable news orgs that I know have gone out of their way to stress that th Ghost of Kyiv is implausible on its face, though not known to be false—which goes above and beyond the standard.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      The saga of Snake Island is real, it just didn’t end with the deaths of the border guards. Just the destruction of all the infrastructure on the island by the Russian warship they told to fuck off, leaving the government to assume they were dead, and later correct the record.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      If a critical detail of the story is false but it's reported as real, that's a false report. Many, many people were repeating false version of story.

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    8. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      And it was subsequently corrected. If someone’s still reporting today that everyone was killed at Snake Island, of course that’s misinformation. Report it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      But I’m not aware that any reputable news organization kept reporting that everyone was killed. It was big news when all those guards were found to be alive.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    10. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      And of course, nobody’s getting sanctioned for occasional factual errors. YouTube is responding to a blanket refusal to label known disinformation, not passing errors.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @beyerstein

      I can go on youtube and in 2 seconds find a Joe Rogen video arguing ancient art was created by space aliens & Jordan Petterson arguing ancients had knowledge of DNA. I'm not sure I understand the standard here.

      6:01 PM - 3 Mar 2022
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        1. trizzlor‏ @trizzlor Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          The standard of not knowingly reporting false statements (or acknowledging they are false) is not hard to understand. Newspapers somehow do this all the time, including issuing corrections and employing fact checkers without bong rip musings about what is a fact.

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        2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          There’s also the issue of purporting to be journalism, indeed “straight news” to use Robbie’s parlance.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Mar 3
          Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

          I would like to see YouTube crack down on health misinformation, too, but it’s gotta start somewhere and incredibly consequential and politically toxic lies like Trump’s election conspiracies are a logical place to start.

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        1. Rootless Cosmopolitan‏ @BrianBuchbinder Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          Oh my. Checks out that he said it unequivocally, except that when confronted, Peterson said it was <paraphrase> dream-like speculation.

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