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    1. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Mar 3

      Mehdi Hasan Retweeted jeremy scahill

      Threadhttps://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1499106956505722886 …

      Mehdi Hasan added,

      jeremy scahillVerified account @jeremyscahill
      A few thoughts about the issue of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the credibility of the US and NATO:
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      476 replies 100 retweets 610 likes
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    2. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Mar 3

      Mehdi Hasan Retweeted Mehdi Hasan

      For all the commenters who didn’t actually read Jeremy’s thread and just leapt for the lazy whataboutist charge:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1496908159893774336 …

      Mehdi Hasan added,

      Mehdi HasanVerified account @mehdirhasan
      Since folks on this hellsite love throwing around the 'whataboutism' charge, a reminder on definitions: 'Whataboutism' is using *another* bad thing to distract from or to justify *this* bad thing. It isn't consistently condemning more than one bad thing at a time. Got it?
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    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki Mar 3
      Replying to @mehdirhasan

      Saying that Russia has "legitimate security concerns" over Ukraine joining NATO is both irrelevant, since Putin's been clear that's not why he's invading Ukraine, and wrong, since there's nothing legitimate about them.

      15 replies 50 retweets 762 likes
    4. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Mar 3
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki

      Always amuses me when Americans, whose country dominates the world and invaded and bombs other countries all in the name of ‘national security’, says other countries don’t have legitimate security concerns. 🤷🏽‍♂️

      187 replies 21 retweets 104 likes
    5. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki Mar 3
      Replying to @mehdirhasan

      But that doesn’t change the fact that Putin’s security concerns are illegitimate (and, again, not the reason he’s invaded i anyway).

      5 replies 2 retweets 203 likes
    6. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Mar 3
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki

      Legitimate or not, and you’re right, they’re probably not legitimate in a rational or objective sense, they’re concerns held by Russians for 30 years, pre Putin, including Gorbachev and Yeltsin. They’re concerns that the current CIA director & ex Russian ambassador warned about.

      30 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
    7. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki Mar 3
      Replying to @mehdirhasan

      I don’t think we should be accepting foreign-policy realists’ definitions of what security concerns are legitimate. But regardless, Scahill did not qualify his statement the way you did, because he wanted to make it seem as if Russia’s concerns are in fact legitimate.

      4 replies 0 retweets 70 likes
    8. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd Mar 3
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @mehdirhasan

      Does it matter if they are ‘legitimate’ so long as they are foreseeable?

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Mar 3
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @michaelbd @mehdirhasan

      That NATO expansion would lead to a nationalist Russian pushback was foreseen, with great accuracy, by many eminently mainstream voices in 1990s, from Kennan on down.https://newrepublic.com/article/165562/nato-critics-predicted-russia-putin-belligerence-ukraine …

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        2. Peter A. Shulman  📚‏ @pashulman Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

          The fundamental issue is Ukraine became a democracy—an example of what Russians could also have but Putin refused to allow. NATO was a symptom and an excuse.

          2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
        3. david m‏ @dave_m_ Mar 3
          Replying to @pashulman @HeerJeet and

          People keep not connecting the dots between Russia’s neighbors wanting to join NATO, and Russia not wanting them to join NATO and then invading ones that haven’t joined NATO

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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        1. Jim Sylvester  🇺🇦‏ @JVSylvester Mar 3
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

          But question is, "If NATO doesn't expand, would Putin then have attacked other countries without that protection?" (And he came so close to clearing the way by securing the cooperation (possibly stupidly unwitting) of POTUS 45.)

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