I think the 50k Centretown residents speak for a lot of Canadians when they say that it sucks to be bullied by right wing fanatics presuming to speak for all Canadians.
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Replying to @beyerstein
I think it's important to understand the diversity of motives that draw people into a mass movement & to distinguish between the far right activists & the broader support. To lump everyone together as "right wing fanatics" in fact serves the interest of the extremist activists.
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You've been following the right wing for long enough to realize that even the most vehement racists can dial it down long enough to fool a sufficiently determined journo on a Dapper Nazi deadline.
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It's pretty clear the organizers are trying to hide the vocal & embarrassing extremists (hence attempts to shuffle off Pat King) but that's not the same as the ordinary Canadians (including according to polling many POC) who are sympathetic to what they see as Convoy message.
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You keep framing the extremists as a tiny faction. They are the organizers. They set the agenda. Anyone who participates in their actions is taking radical action whether they think of themselves as radical or not.
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I think Michelle's article makes if very clear that the organizers are far-right extremists with seditionists goals. That's not the same as saying everyone who joined the protest is that.
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That you can find “normal people” not committed to explicit fascist ideology in a largely astroturfed rightwing protest movement is true but not very meaningful from a journalistic standpoint. It wasnt when we got 1000 of these pieces during the tea party movement either I think
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Funding/leadership/political context are what actually matters and downplaying this serves what purpose exactly? Like, yeah, grandma is nice and didn’t have a swastika tattooed on her forehead. No shit. Okay, but what are the material forces, the primary movers
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Only article about the the specific protestors should be trying to find out how they ended up doing the work of the astro-turf org? What causes these people to up-end their lives for this?
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There are ways of asking these important political questions without the gooey first person prose and wildly overplaying the covid-related frustrations
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I think there's a Dionysian element to the protests (it's part of their appeal) which the "gooey" first person prose captures. But, sure, more focused reporting on the far right networks is also crucial.
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It’s a spectrum and I think Goldberg’s piece crossed way over into wallet inspector territory a half a dozen times
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That's reasonable. I'll just say that having watched a few previously reasonable people become unmoored by pandemic, I don't think her portraits are far from the mark.
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