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    1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      You've been following the right wing for long enough to realize that even the most vehement racists can dial it down long enough to fool a sufficiently determined journo on a Dapper Nazi deadline.

      2 replies 6 retweets 54 likes
    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein

      It's pretty clear the organizers are trying to hide the vocal & embarrassing extremists (hence attempts to shuffle off Pat King) but that's not the same as the ordinary Canadians (including according to polling many POC) who are sympathetic to what they see as Convoy message.

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      You keep framing the extremists as a tiny faction. They are the organizers. They set the agenda. Anyone who participates in their actions is taking radical action whether they think of themselves as radical or not.

      3 replies 6 retweets 56 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein

      I think Michelle's article makes if very clear that the organizers are far-right extremists with seditionists goals. That's not the same as saying everyone who joined the protest is that.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      So, you have to make the very charitable assumption that the people participating in this action are a) telling the truth when they demur from socially unacceptable views, and b) Don't ascribe to the official motives of the protest they're laying their bodies on the line for.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein

      Having participated in a few protests, I think it's good to talk to people at marches & not assume an identity between leadership and grassroots. To do otherwise is to fall into the madness of Christopher Hitchens in 2003 who thought the whole anti-war movement was Stalinist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      But you should also take care not to get rolled. Goldberg doesn't seem to have done the work to make these claims responsibly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      She's not grappling with the evidence of the deeds, she's just going by the possibly self-serving words of protesters who are parroting the official message of the protest, which we all agree is organized by right wing extremists.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein

      That's just not a fair reading of the article which repeatedly mentions the racism/misogyny/homophobia & bullying of some of the protesters as well as organizerspic.twitter.com/TPyaI862ng

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    10. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein Feb 18
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      The ass-covering makes the piece incoherent. She agrees that this is a protest organized by untrustworthy extremists, but she's happy to take seemingly participants at their word when they insist they don't accept the organizing principles of the siege they're participating in.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 18
      Replying to @beyerstein

      Is it ass covering or is it an attempt to see the many sides of a complex event, one with participants who are not homogenous?

      8:24 AM - 18 Feb 2022
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        2. Raven Onthill mstdn @ravenonthill@mastodon.social.‏ @RavenOnthill Feb 18
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          Racists often don’t come out and say they’re racist. This was so even during the antebellum period. There is always some other reason why they were treating blacks horribly. I think of the votes against Obama and for Trump where racism was almost never discussed but the later

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        3. Raven Onthill mstdn @ravenonthill@mastodon.social.‏ @RavenOnthill Feb 18
          Replying to @RavenOnthill @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          Sociological work clearly showed racism.

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