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    1. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion Feb 12

      You'd think it'd be possible to argue -NATO expansion has been disastrous provocation -US must pursue diplomacy, avoid escalation -Russia has legit security concerns re Ukraine without claiming that Ukraine isn't a real country and/or is populated exclusively by Nazis. And yet

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    2. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion Feb 12

      Relatedly, it would be nice if we could understand "sphere of influence" to mean a cold, de facto reality and not something that morally or legally exists (or, OTOH, doesn't exist at all). Ukraine is in Russia's SOI bc Russia can exercise its will there, not bc that's good.

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    3. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion Feb 12

      My position on this conflict has been the same since 2014: Russia is the aggressor and what it's doing to Ukraine is terribly unfair, and also there's very little the US can do about it and a lot the US has done in the past to help get us here.

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    4.  🕷Dante Atkins 🕷‏Verified account @DanteAtkins Feb 12
      Replying to @DavidKlion

      The idea that NATO expansion has prompted this is a nice out, but ridiculous on its face. What are we supposed to believe, that since the Baltics joined NATO in 2004, that now Russia needs to <checks notes> annex Ukraine? In self-defense? It's absurd.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Feb 13
      Replying to @DanteAtkins @DavidKlion

      Hilariously, back in the 1990s lots of very prominent Russia and foreign policy thinkers (including very establishment people like George Kennan) predicted that NATO expansion would in fact have the very results that it had. So it's strange to be denial now.pic.twitter.com/EGqyhY9815

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        1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 13
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DanteAtkins @DavidKlion

          It’s good to see takes like this once in a while just to be reminded that English has great words like codswallop.

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        2.  🕷Dante Atkins 🕷‏Verified account @DanteAtkins Feb 13
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DavidKlion

          My point is that any blame on NATO expansion has to account for the significant delay between that expansion and the current crisis. And that's what doesn't add up to me.

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        3.  🕷Dante Atkins 🕷‏Verified account @DanteAtkins Feb 13
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          Now, if you want to argue that NATO expansion led to Putinism in general, that's one argument, and I kind of understand that. So did our shock doctrine economics. But then, it's all about lost empire, and not about actual security threats.

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