Maybe we should discuss whether Hari Seldon's psychohistory is a science?
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I never liked the series
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It's a statistical discipline where manipulative experiments that enable strong inference hypothesis testing are impractical. Like meteorology, or human genetics. Still science. One can pose hypotheses and test them with novel data analyses.
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Nah, too many vital fields of research get excluded that way. Not that you're wrong about it being an ideology, but group psychology is still a science and this is basically the nightmare eldritch version of that line of inquiry.
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It's obviously magic. Or magick.
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That's a bit like saying all the scientists who were wrong about something before Scientist X made The Big Breakthrough weren't doing science.
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But then there's the "The only way to predict the future is to invent it" thing.
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How do you define 'productive?'
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In a sense, psychohistory is Philosophy, if people had read Plato's Republic more literally as a how-to.
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I’d argue that Second Foundation refutes that argument. Though at that point it’s perhaps more engineering than science.
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What about a theory a little closer to home? This "The Fourth Turning" book may or may not be scientific but there sure is a lot of evidence to support the hypothesis. That being, we're going to see society come pretty close to falling apart every 80 years, because generations.
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I've been told Steve Bannon is a big believer in this book so I gave it a read. It's pretty compelling, it predicted a lot of what's eventually come to pass.
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