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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jan 5

      1. Mailer pseudo-kerfuffle follows a pattern: there's a type of male writer who tends to be a star when alive & then goes into reputational decline soon after death: macho, two-fisted, sometimes substance abusing: Hemingway, Hunter Thompson, Mailer, Harlan Ellison, Hitchens.

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    2. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      True of Mailer, Thompson and Ellison, but Hemingway? Seriously? He died in 1961 and his work (short stories *and* novels) were a staple of American lit (and lit in general) syllabi when I was in college in the mid-1980s

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    3. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HeerJeet

      As for Hitch, his legacy is in flux but definitely not forgotten. Also I've never thought of him as the two-fisted macho type?

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    4. Hussein Ibish‏Verified account @Ibishblog Jan 5
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HeerJeet

      Ridiculous

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    5. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
      Replying to @Ibishblog @HeerJeet

      Also, the dude managed to have a new novel published after being dead for 24 years. https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/99/07/04/specials/hemingway-new.html … I call that a good afterlife!

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    6. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @Ibishblog @HeerJeet

      (And it was a pretty huge event as these things go!)

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    7. Michael Weiss  🌻 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏Verified account @michaeldweiss Jan 5
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @Ibishblog @HeerJeet

      The biggest literary documentary last year was a six-hour exploration of Hemingway. Co-directed by Ken Burns, no less. Not quite a sign of reputational eclipse. As for Hitch, “macho” is by no means le mot juste to describe him or his oeuvre…

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jan 5
      Replying to @michaeldweiss @CathyYoung63 @Ibishblog

      The second tweet in my thread answer the point about Hemingway. As for Hitchens, the many "Hitchslap" videos on youtube testify to some fans seeing him as a model of robust manly aggression.

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        1. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
          Replying to @HeerJeet @michaeldweiss @Ibishblog

          I saw that, but it isn't just the short stories!

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        2. Hussein Ibish‏Verified account @Ibishblog Jan 5
          Replying to @HeerJeet @michaeldweiss @CathyYoung63

          I do think this applies completely to Mailer, Hemingway and Thompson, all of whom were walking caricatures of macho bluster. Mailer even stabbed his wife. He was a pathetic wretch with a lot of talent but no ability to think clearly at all.

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        3. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Jan 5
          Replying to @Ibishblog @HeerJeet @michaeldweiss

          There was a lot more to Hemingway than macho bluster, though. Mailer? I'm not so sure. Wife-stabbing aside, he had a rather disturbing tendency to romanticize violence (including murder) as some sort of primal expression of the male life force.

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        2. John-Paul Pagano‏ @johnpaulpagano Jan 5
          Replying to @HeerJeet @michaeldweiss and

          Huh? The Hitchslap videos tend to feature him extemporaneously withering someone with wit and high eloquence. I can’t imagine a bunch of MMA fans sitting around watching those clips.

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        3. Michael Weiss  🌻 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏Verified account @michaeldweiss Jan 5
          Replying to @johnpaulpagano @HeerJeet and

          He’d have probably been the first Joe Rogan podcast guest to insult the host in a way that Rogan took it as a compliment.

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        1. Michael Weiss  🌻 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏Verified account @michaeldweiss Jan 5
          Replying to @HeerJeet @CathyYoung63 @Ibishblog

          Your second tweet doesn’t. “Partial revival” is an insufficient characterization for a writer who is still taught in virtually every high school and college. Also, judging a writer’s machismo on the basis of how YouTube posters define it is not the height of cultural criticism.

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