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    1. Jacob Heilbrunn‏Verified account @JacobHeilbrunn 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      If Lee hadn’t been such an assiduous promoter would Marvel have hit it big?

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    2. coffeetreeaz‏ @coffeetreeaz 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @JacobHeilbrunn @HeerJeet

      Based on the inherent quality of their product, yes. Ditko and Kirby in the 60s are forces of nature.

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    3. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @coffeetreeaz @JacobHeilbrunn @HeerJeet

      I’d say yes and no. Kirby and Ditko were talented people, but Ditko could be a bit of a prima donna (not unlike Alan Moore) and Kirby was sometimes a bit all over the place. Lee got them the attention they deserved.

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    4. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Mad_Science_Guy @coffeetreeaz and

      Would they have hit it big absent Lee? Maybe, but Lee’s particular talent was creating a space where artists like that could work. With all his flaws, that’s sometimes under appreciated (even to a point by Lee himself)

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    5. Jacob Heilbrunn‏Verified account @JacobHeilbrunn 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Mad_Science_Guy @coffeetreeaz @HeerJeet

      I think absent Stan the Man, no way.

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    6. coffeetreeaz‏ @coffeetreeaz 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @JacobHeilbrunn @Mad_Science_Guy @HeerJeet

      I'm not saying he didn't contribute anything. Far from it. I'm saying the Marvel product didn't need any kind of assiduity of hypemanship to sell itself at that period.

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    7. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @coffeetreeaz @JacobHeilbrunn @HeerJeet

      I think assuming things will “naturally” sell is easy with hindsight. I mean, there are plenty of examples of ad campaigns or tireless promotion that made at-the-time dubious prospects soar.

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    8. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 19 Dec 2021
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      In 1965 or so Marvel was doing ok, but it wasn’t the marketing juggernaut we know now, and comics were still geared to kids and pretty niche even so.

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @Mad_Science_Guy @coffeetreeaz @JacobHeilbrunn

      To be honest, I would say Lee's hype gave the whole line a common identity which was crucial for it emerging as a "universe" rather than overlapping titles. But equally important (and I hate to say this) were 2nd generation writers who melded it into continuity (Thomas)

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    10. Jacob Heilbrunn‏Verified account @JacobHeilbrunn 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet @Mad_Science_Guy @coffeetreeaz

      I always thought Englehart was far more imaginative of the new generation

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 19 Dec 2021
      Replying to @JacobHeilbrunn @Mad_Science_Guy @coffeetreeaz

      Yeah, but Thomas (and later Grunwald) were crucial in tying characters together in a tighter continuity, which as become (for better or worse) a feature of the universe.

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