However, I disagree with Wes. I think the war in Iraq and the 2008 definitely helped undermine belief in liberalism (not political liberalism in the US sense but The Liberal Order).
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Also: Obama presidency simultaneously drove the rise of white identity politics on the right & intersectional IdPol on the left - not b/c of O. himself, but b/c of a sense that true revolution was possible & lingering inequities (of race, gender etc.) couldn't be tolerated
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At some point in the early 2010s, mainstream progressive media took a sharp left turn on cultural issues & started to take dictation from left-wing activists & blogs
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In my view, the personal convictions of Catherine Lhamon and Vanita Gutpa are more important than any of what you've just spelled out. Their beliefs pre-existed all the events you referenced.
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But people with similar convictions held important posts in the Clinton administration. These ideas had to fall on fertile soil.
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Right because activists captured territory in media and culture they didn't possess in the 90's. This process was unrelated to Iraq, the general state of liberalism etc.
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How involved have you been in activism? As far as I can tell, activists can't gain ground unless there's some widescale event or social experience that makes people more receptive to their arguments.
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I doubt that a political actor on the right would define themselves using that language, even if the tactics were similar. Chris Rufo certainly fits the bill, but I don’t know what he’d call himself
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I definitely see Rufo as an activists. More broadly, historians of the American right often talk about such figures as activists (and see them as interacting with social changes). So it's not a left/right thing.
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