Shor and Yglesias are both thriving, making more money than (I'd guess) 95-98% of Americans. They have the ear of the White House. They can't, I suppose, sell pro-Chappelle reviews for $250 a pop to http://Salon.com . I don't know if that's quite persecution. https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1447951623679004675 …
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That Shor landed on his feet is a weird defense. It’s the throwing, not the landing, that is the issue.
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The fact that he landed on his feet so quickly is perhaps an indication that the persecution is not at the level (to cite some commonly used metaphors in this debate) of Stalinism, McCarthyism or the Cultural Revolution.
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Then somebody hacked your account. This looks like you:https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1447968572446236675?s=20 …
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I'm citing the commonly used metaphors in these debates. You've surely encountered them?
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The only purpose of citing those metaphors is to end the conversation. Of course Shor getting fired isn’t Stalinism ffs. Why bother starting the conversation if the immediate move is to just end it?
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Again, it's pretty common for people discussing Shor & related cases of putative persecution to cite Stalinism. Here's one example (from a centrist publication). Invention of hypothetical cases (as in Jesse's tweet) is another type of hysterical rhetorichttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/academics-are-really-really-worried-about-their-freedom/615724/ …
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So you were winning an argument against them by…making the point to me?
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The conceit of original tweet is that people could be fired for praising Chappelle & Shor/Yglesias firing are proof. The fact that Shor/Yglesias almost immediately became much more successful makes me doubt the conceit & see this as rhetorical inflation (common to this debate)
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The original claim was that a positive review would yield complaints to the bosses, which is highly likely, right?
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Complaints by who? Readers, fellow employees? Writing a negative review of an Avengers movie would also generate blowback. I worked for a newspaper where film chain threatened to pull advertising over harsh review of Babar:King of the Elephants (1999), calling it "elephant shit"
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