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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 10 Oct 2021

    Jeet Heer Retweeted Nate Cohn

    While I've ragged on it, I actually agree with a wide swath of Shorism (structural disadvantage of Dems, need for structural reforms, importance of focusing on non-college voters, running moderates in swing areas, economic policy > culture war). But this is a real sticking pointhttps://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1447209164191805447 …

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    Nate CohnVerified account @Nate_Cohn
    I think it's totally reasonable to argue that campaigns shouldn't embrace ideas before they are popular. It is not realistic to argue that activists shouldn't advocate for ideas before they're popular.
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      2. Rabid Badger  🦡‏ @RabidBadger 10 Oct 2021
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Umm @Nate_Cohn Shouldn’t campaigns embrace what, umm, er, maybe, sorta, kinda, the ideas they believe in and got them to run for public office? MAYBE THAT? Maybe?

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      3. Xavier  🌹 🌁‏ @buzzwhistle 10 Oct 2021
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        Politicians might come from an activist background, but they'll always have different incentives, which is all that's being pointed out, here.

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      1. Michael.eth‏ @_FleerUltra 10 Oct 2021
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        this is also why in particular the "defund" portion of the argument is so stupid. the targets of "defund the police" activists are incredibly safe dem super-majorities in city legislatures/mayors

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      2. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 10 Oct 2021
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        The problem with the Democrats is that instead of campaigning conservatively and ruling like activists, they campaign like activists and rule conservatively. You keep the necessary but unpopular ideas under your hat until you're in a position to implement them.

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      3. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 10 Oct 2021
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        The irony of course is that Sanders spooked them because he campaigned like an activist, but the wrong kind of activism. Anyway I'm just throwing ideas out there, hoping they make some sense. I've sort of given up on US politics lately - they're all irredeemable.

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      1. Prince of Dorne‏ @TravisStevenRo1 10 Oct 2021
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        Shor's pointing out the obvious regarding structural disadvantages and reforms, he doesn't deserve a cookie.

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      1. Joel Howe‏ @joel_howe 10 Oct 2021
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        Activists should absolutely try to make good but unpopular policies into popular policies. And politicians should absolutely denounce those unpopular activists and policies until the activists have succeeded.

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