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    1. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 8 Oct 2021

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      1/ The responses to this are completely fascinating. We have a situation in which the Guardian, Slate, and other outlets chose to cover a controversy while eschewing basic journalistic standards centered on trying to figure out what happened. Instead, they stoked a conspiracyhttps://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1446491174747914245 …

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      Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal
      To be clear, this a Reuters editor responding to a situation in which Andy Ngo, whatever you think of him, undeniably scooped multiple major outlets that treated an alleged sex crime with multiple victims, including a girl, as a hoax. That's the level of professionalism we're at https://twitter.com/mgerrydoyle/status/1446268467481513985 …
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    2. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 8 Oct 2021

      2/ theory that turned out to be completely false -- they failed to do even the most basic homework, including contacting an eyewitness to the aftermath of the incident who had come forward on Twitter. Andy Ngo, in part because the story fit his ideological priors, *did* do that

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    3. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 8 Oct 2021

      3/ work -- making for an exceptionally embarrassing moment for anyone who cares about mainstream journalism (which I do, despite being increasingly annoyed at the incompetent cowards within it). The response? No introspection. No "Huh, I guess we should do better."

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    4. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 8 Oct 2021

      4/ Instead, it's *all* focused on whether or not I was mean enough to Andy Ngo in expressing that I disagree with his work, and on resuscitating long-ago-debunked conspiracy theories about him being a Literal Nazi. This lack of self-awareness and drive to nitpick internal dissent

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Oct 2021
      Replying to @jessesingal

      The question isn't whether you were "mean enough" to Ngo but whether you had accurately characterized who and what he is. The various descriptions you've given of Ngo strike me as evasive.

      10:13 AM - 8 Oct 2021
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        2. Allan‏ @AvianDentures 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          isn't that kind of a distinction without a difference? "This bad guy reported things more accurately than these media outlets" vs "this bad guy, who is bad because of X, Y, Z, reported things more accurately than these media outlets"

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        3. B Wright‏ @inowright 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @AvianDentures @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          It reads to me that he was saying specifically that that distinction does make a difference so if you think it doesn’t and want to ask a question about that you should be more specific about what you want to know.

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        2. Quetzal Flying To New Horizons‏ @QuetzalThoughts 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          Wouldn't this make Jesse's point all the more striking? What does it say that if he characterized Ngo to your satisfaction that he still was more honest than the media? Talk about focusing on the most irrelevant aspect of this whole debacle.

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        3. Stinkerino‏ @stinkerino 9 Oct 2021
          Replying to @QuetzalThoughts @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          One wonders why Singal didn’t mention the things that would “make his point so striking” - that Ngo is a Nazi collaborator, not a journalist. Weird Singal left all that out when it would bolster his point so well!

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        2. Carl‏ @HistoryBoomer 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          This is the least important part of the story. Yes, Ngo sucks as a journalist. If you don't know it, you'll learn fast enough. Jesse was maybe a bit gentle with his wording but so what? Nobody who follows these stories doesn't know what Ngo is about.

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        3. ABBA IS BACK!! #WynonnaEarp #BringWynonnaHome‏ @sgcafan 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HistoryBoomer @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          Plenty of people "don't know what he's about." That's the point Jeet and many others are making and that Jesse's obfuscating, which is his MO.

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        1. CORVID-19‏ @metamachasa 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          If he had done that to your liking you would find a different reason to deflect from the actual substance of his point. Why not entertain his actual point?

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        1. Traveler in the Undiscovered Country‏ @unseenhorizons 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          Literally the entire point of the article is that Andy Ngo really sucks and still somehow did better journalism than you did.

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        2. Lulu Naranga‏ @lulunaranga 8 Oct 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal

          Somebody as awful as Ngo should not have been the one to break the story, that's the point. By not addressing weaknesses, we leave openings for bad actors to take advantage of them.

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