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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Sep 2021

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Andrew Solender

      1. The goofball Trump comment about wanting Robert E. Lee to head the army to fight the Taliban shouldn't hide the fact that Trump is basing his romantic view of Lee on a century plus of Lost Cause mythos that wasn't confined to the South but very mainstream.https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1435734815823826952 …

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      Andrew SolenderVerified account @AndrewSolender
      Trump, in a lengthy statement, decries the removal of Richmond's Robert E. Lee statue, calling it "magnificent." "If only we had Robert E. Lee to command our troops in Afghanistan... What an embarrassment we are suffering because we don’t have the genius of a Robert E. Lee!" pic.twitter.com/cRoLoUp5br
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Sep 2021

      2. In addition to the Lost Cause mythos, Lee's reputation has benefitted from the strange aristocratic bias of military analysis (or rather military fandom).

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Sep 2021

      3. There's a real tendency among military fanboys to exalt aristocratic losers (not just Lee but Rommel & Heinz Guderian) over the plebes who actually, you know, win wars (Grant, Sherman, Zhukov, Giap).

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        1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Sep 2021

          4. Some more thoughts on the still not dead cult of Robert E. Lee, with some assists from Ulysses Grant, W.E.B. Du Bois, & @AdamSerwerhttps://jeetheer.substack.com/p/robert-e-lee-loses-again?r=bh54&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=twitter …

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        2. Kyle Beaulieu‏ @kyle_beaulieu_ 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          This is such a great point, where do you think that impetus comes from?

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @kyle_beaulieu_

          Military culture is aristocratic in origin (knights!) and Lee & co. are more in keeping with the ideal.

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        2. G$ Climate Sci‏ @ClimEducator_BG 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          True, but not sure Rommel fits the characteristic of 'aristocratic'.

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        3. IM‏ @immo_i 10 Sep 2021
          Replying to @ClimEducator_BG @HeerJeet

          Rommels non-aristocratic and non prussian origins were actually played up by the propaganda.

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        2. bowtoyoursensei‏ @bubbleIPL 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          certainly wouldn't rate them "above" others for a variety of reasons but i wouldn't rate a general as bad just because their side lost

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        2. Jared Brewer‏ @DrJaredBrewer 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Rommel, Grant, and Sherman are basically all out of middle class stock, though. Is the point about aristocratic affect or actual aristocratic roots?

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        3. Jared Brewer‏ @DrJaredBrewer 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @DrJaredBrewer @HeerJeet

          I mean heck, Sherman's father was on the Ohio Supreme Court. That's even a bit more than middle class.

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        1. Greg S R‏ @Stirling58 9 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          I recall reading how post war historians called the loser of Stalingrad, Friedrich Von Paulus. Which was incorrect, he wasn't an aristocrat. Don't know if that error's been corrected or not in later histories but it seems to make the point here.

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