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    1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Joshua_A_Tait

      Kind of goofy, no? More sort of figuring out a way to trash the neo cons for, in msny cases, their erstwhile leftism (or their family’s) and, perhaps, their Jewishness. But, unless you have an warped idea of “internationalism”, it doesn’t really add up.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @yeselson @Joshua_A_Tait

      In 1980s paleo discourse, "modernity" of neos was shorthand for cluster of traits that included, yes, Jewishness, but also secularism, social science orientation (as against humanities focus of paleos), metropolitianism, & openness to modern art.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet @Joshua_A_Tait

      Yeah, all of that.

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    4. Joshua Tait‏ @Joshua_A_Tait 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @yeselson @HeerJeet

      I guess if you're worried, I certainly mean secularity rather than Jewishness, but I recognize the anti-Semitism in the paleocon critique

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    5. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Joshua_A_Tait @HeerJeet

      I’m not “worried”, I guess I would essentially conflate Jewish and secular here—cosmopolitan, leftist intellectuals are the dangerous category; Marx and Trotsky are both secular and Jewish.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Joshua Tait‏ @Joshua_A_Tait 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @yeselson @HeerJeet

      To some extent I'm thinking about people like Jonah Goldberg, who was part of this discussion in the 2000s-2010s as a neocon-cum-conservative, who is no one's idea of a Trotskyist, yet didn't buy the Trumpist argument.

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    7. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Joshua_A_Tait @HeerJeet

      Yeah, fair.

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    8. Joshua Tait‏ @Joshua_A_Tait 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @yeselson @HeerJeet

      I'm just spitballing here and your comments are very helpful - defining terms is hard but important and twitter lets you get away with not doing the hard work.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Joshua_A_Tait @HeerJeet

      Yeah, no worries, I was just trying to tease it out—I think if you really take the quote seriously, you end up with Marx as a quintessential intellectual of modernity—*the* quintessential intellectual really, along with Freud (ok, Nietzsche too). And he embodies Jeet’s list.

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    10. Joshua Tait‏ @Joshua_A_Tait 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @yeselson @HeerJeet

      I remember it being very religious in nature (hence Feuerbach), but I'll reread the piece!

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Joshua_A_Tait @yeselson

      Feuerbach carries a lot of connotation in this debate because he was both a harbinger of secularism and an important influence on Marx.

      5:37 PM - 7 Sep 2021
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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Joshua_A_Tait

          Yeah exactly. He’s key for the early Marx.

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        3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @yeselson @HeerJeet @Joshua_A_Tait

          The different reactions to Trump within the conservative intelligentsia don't map perfectly onto old divides but they do suggest that those divides still have influence.

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        1. Joshua Tait‏ @Joshua_A_Tait 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @yeselson

          Tonsor nailed it then

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