I have been hearing from people who are more familiar with the inner world of the Claremont Institute than I am. It's been interesting. In that vein, I recommend this post by @lldzne, who did graduate work there alongside Anton and Ellmers in the 90s.https://lawrenceserewicz.wordpress.com/2021/08/31/what-laura-field-does-not-know-about-claremont-a-response/ …
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I was largely focused on recording and demonstrating the decline, whereas
@lldzne traces out more of the causes. might be of interest to@AryehCW@HeerJeet@MatthewSitman@SamAdlerBell@DamonLinker@UrbanAchievr@RuleandRuin@jonathanchait@ThePlumLineGS@jktulis1 reply 0 retweets 8 likesShow this thread -
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Replying to @HeerJeet @lkatfield and
I enjoyed reading the piece, but I didn't find it very useful. Too internalist to that little world & too admiring of Jaffa (and Neumann lol). Jaffa became a crank decades before his death and set the stage for a lot of what we're seeing now in a way that the author doesn't see.
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I'm still trying to process but broadly agree -- Jaffa's crankiness (coupled with real brilliance) was evident in 1960s/1970s. Not a far leap from his embrace of religous right to Claremont's Trumpism.
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Once HJ is pronouncing America the "best regime" & attacking Allan Bloom for his homosexuality, he's a full-on crank in my book. & from my experience of knowing some of those folks in the 90s, they were always *very* right wing & disgusted by (not just critical of) lib modernity.
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maybe so but I think it's still worth thinking about how far HJ would have gone down this path, or what it means if he wouldn't have - relates to questions about the role played by institutional leaders (even faulty ones) and the inevitability of something like a Trumpy GOP
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I suppose I have no trouble at all imagining HJ embracing Trump, perhaps in the coy anti-anti-Trump way many of the others have.
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I just can't see that happening and certainly not in the Anti-Anti-Trump way. Harry Jaffa was direct, at times, to the point of bluntness regarding politicians, or supreme court justices. I can't find my copy of one of the letters he wrote to Justice Thomas.
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To me the question of whether HJ would have supported Trump is less interesting (and knowable) than the question of how he prepared the groundwork for Trumpism.
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Again, I would need someone to spell out the argument since his work on Lincoln would not suggest, to me, that such an argument exists. To be sure one can speculate, but that does not make it concrete. With Harry Neumann as his friend, I just don't see it how it can be traced.
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I would point out that Jaffa as critiquing what conservatism was becoming in 1996 so I do not think he would have embraced Trump.https://twitter.com/lldzne/status/1359446661618151427?s=20 …
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