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    1. The Bike Mayor of the Lumpenproletariat كاحسخ‏ @cathasach4bikes 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil

      Are you saying that anti-racists are race realists?

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    2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cathasach4bikes @whstancil

      Not race realists - racial realists, in the Derrick Bell sense of the phrase. And some anti-racists are, others aren't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. The Bike Mayor of the Lumpenproletariat كاحسخ‏ @cathasach4bikes 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil

      Do you have any examples of anti-racists pushing that position?

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    4. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cathasach4bikes @whstancil

      What do you mean? As I said, it's central to Derrick Bell's thinking: https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt9qg47z ….

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    5. The Bike Mayor of the Lumpenproletariat كاحسخ‏ @cathasach4bikes 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil

      So no one prominent, just a basically unknown academic.

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    6. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cathasach4bikes @whstancil

      Calling Derrick Bell "basically unknown" is a weird flex, but you do you.

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    7. Will Stancil‏ @whstancil 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @cathasach4bikes

      yeah man I mean I just don't think Derrick Bell's decades-old ideas are really, like, especially salient in the discourse right now. obviously he's not an unknown but if you want to say "these are the ideas that are turning people off!" it's because someone went looking for them

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    8. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @whstancil @cathasach4bikes

      Stop. Talking with you is impossible because you constantly move the goalposts. You asked what “extreme manifestations” MLK would disagree with. Racial realism is one of them. If you think that’s wrong, explain why. Don’t shift to a different question of “what’s turning ppl off.”

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil

      pic.twitter.com/Cdelz8PFwu

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    10. Earlbeacon‏ @earlbeacon 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

      how is that relevant to the issue being discussed

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jul 2021
      Replying to @earlbeacon @JamesSurowiecki and

      The question is are "extreme manifestations" easily separated out from putatively mainstream ones. I don't think they necessarily are, to judge by how MLK was seen in his lifetime by white public.

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        2. Will Stancil‏ @whstancil 8 Jul 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @earlbeacon and

          It's more than that. The issue is whether there are extreme ideas that HAVE REACHED MAINSTREAM ACCEPTANCE to sufficient degree that backlash against them would impair more traditional thinking. This isn't an argument over the mere existence of extremism

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        3. Will Stancil‏ @whstancil 8 Jul 2021
          Replying to @whstancil @HeerJeet and

          The contention is that the extremists have taken over to sufficient degree to engender a backlash. If the extreme ideas are just floating at the distant margins, mostly unknown, then what are we even arguing about? Who cares if radicals simply exist in obscure books?

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        2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 8 Jul 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @earlbeacon and

          It was not difficult to intellectually separate the concepts of black power and armed resistance from King’s advocacy of a transracial, nonviolent, class-based movement.

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