What I find amazing about Yglesias is just how ahistorical his thinking is. As in, he genuinely doesn't seem to believe "change over time" is a thing.
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(((David Shor))) Retweeted Xenocrypt
Even the fastest issues (IE, gay marriage or marijuana) change over the course of decades, not the time scale of electoral campaignshttps://twitter.com/xenocryptsite/status/969599138903019520 …
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As also related to my other reply, why the artificial constraint of the timescale of electoral campaigns? When did we begin with this limitation? Policies can be made more popular over time by the combined work of activists, cohort replacement, and yes, campaigns too.
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Politicians trying to eke out 50.1% majorities are not ideal messengers for accomplishing cultural hegemony. Actual progress on social issues has come from subverting mass cultural production.https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1331978489688449025 …
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(((David Shor)))Verified account @davidshorThis is exactly the kind of work, educating the general public about the experiences and challenges of marginalized peoples, that can kick off long-term change in public opinion https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1331719476874801156 … pic.twitter.com/Qq8rTDCpvK1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes -
Replying to @davidshor @DavidAstinWalsh
I’m still confused—no one was just talking about electoral politics!
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I'm responding to what
@HeerJeet is saying - persuasion on issues is slow in the best case, and the more divorced it is from formal party politics the more likely it is to work. Winning/persuasion is mainly about achieving hegemony by manipulating ostensibly neutral mass media.1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes -
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Over the past 30 years issue advocacy orgs have become near-formal appendages of different factions of the Democratic party (this includes groups like Sunrise) and this has both made it harder for Dems to win elections and has made progress on issues slower.
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Maybe everyone is just talking past each other but Jeet wrote of "democratic politics," which I plainly read with a small "d." This isn't about Democrats or elections. It's about broad participation in self-governance.
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Right, that's how I meant it. I mean to take a concrete case, if Matt wants one billion Americans, the focus has to be away from short term electoral victories of the Dems towards the organizing & persuasion work that puts the idea on the agenda.
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Yeah. I think Matt's example is kind of key - he's talking to Republicans and conservatives and trying to make space for people who disagree with him ideologically to embrace his ideas. Most modern activism that Yglesias complains about isn't like that.
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