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    1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021

      Lindsay Beyerstein Retweeted Jeet Heer

      What? Resistance liberals are absolutely furious at Manchin and Sinema.https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1398344511810588695 …

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      Jeet HeerVerified account @HeerJeet
      Replying to @CoreyRobin
      Resistance liberals probably wouldn't accept the idea of Democratic blame but there's no reason why leftists who believe fascism analysis shouldn't. It's a major problem that Dems are not the type of party that can successful resist authoritarianism.
      15 replies 18 retweets 250 likes
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein

      Do they generalize it into a critique of the party or just blame individuals?

      14 replies 0 retweets 54 likes
    3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      In what sense is it the Democratic Party's fault that Manchin and Sinema are rejecting planks of the Democratic platform?

      11 replies 2 retweets 73 likes
    4. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      This is not a case of Democratic Party ideological intransigence preventing cooperation. The Dems have tried to make deals with Manchin and Sinema to advance the party's priorities and they've failed.

      6 replies 2 retweets 41 likes
    5. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      But I truly don't see how Dem leadership trying desperately but failing to get Manchin and Sinema on board is comparable to the German Communist Party refusing to cooperate with the SocDems to fight Hitler. That's an utterly bizarre analogy.

      2 replies 1 retweet 51 likes
    6. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      It's not like Joe Biden has declared Joe Manchin a "social fascist" and proclaimed him a bigger enemy of the Democratic Party than the Republicans.

      1 reply 1 retweet 24 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein

      Corey's Robin's explicit point is that ideological dissipation (the Dems) can enable authoritarianism as much as ideological intransigent (German CP): so not that the two things are the same but that they are different but have the same consequences.

      2 replies 3 retweets 46 likes
    8. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      What does "ideological dissipation" mean in this context? The Democratic Party has a very clear ideological agenda and it's trying to get two holdouts in line.

      4 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
    9. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

      It's not the Democratic Party's fault that Manchin improbably survived the political realignment of West Virginia long enough to become an obstacle to their agenda.

      3 replies 1 retweet 34 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 May 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein

      I think it's reasonable to expect political parties to find ways to hold members in line for "existential" (Biden's characterization) issues -- that's the argument.

      12:56 PM - 28 May 2021
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        1. MaskedInMN‏ @Dperl99 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          Though it may be a reasonable expectation, I've yet to see anyone propose a way to make this happen (with Manchin, probably more doable with Sinema).

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        2. Brien Jackson‏ @Brien_Jackson 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          How?

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 May 2021
          Replying to @Brien_Jackson @beyerstein

          It's Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer's job to figure that out. That's why they get to hold powerful positions.

          20 replies 1 retweet 106 likes
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        1. Dave Kamper  🌹‏ @dskamper 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          And here, we have to look at decades of the Dems (and GOP, but less relevant here) repeatedly moving in the direction of less party discipline and more individual autonomy for electeds. That's not something that can be restored quickly.

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        2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          How do you enforce party discipline on Manchin? Kick him out of the party and kill the majority? Strip him of his committees and humiliate him so he goes to caucus with the GOP? Refuse to sit with him at lunch?

          6 replies 2 retweets 24 likes
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        2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          How do you "hold a member in line" when he's from a state that voted 69-30 for Donald Trump, and voted 70-29 for a Republican senator?

          4 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
        3. yolo contendere‏ @HongPong 28 May 2021
          Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          appropriations that is the traditional method

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        1. Craig Kaplan‏ @TriggerLoop 28 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @beyerstein

          I think what Atrioa has argued is that if you never raise the stakes for someone ever (though other claim this will be cutting nose to spite face) that you can’t got to electorate with “it’s not our fault” while the other side “we will deliver for our constituencies”

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        2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 29 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Without a plausible point of leverage, the idea that Schumer or anyone else can “find ways” to make Manchin vote against his interests is magical thinking. It’s mushy “West Wing” fantasy that socialists disdain in so many normie Dems.

          3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
        3. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 29 May 2021
          Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet

          I think Schumer should take more votes to put pressure on Manchin. But there are no magic wands. Manchin knows what his interests are and he’s not going to be seduced or bullied into signing his political death warrant.

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