So what is your opinion of CA Board of Regents interference in faculty recommendation to keep the SATs? Political interference only problematic on tenure decisions? Admissions not a big deal? How committed are you to this idea that it’s just one side?
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In fairness to Jeet, all he is alleging is anti-cancel culture warriors who shrug at this are showing that they are not principled about it.
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That’s the most charitable reading of this particular tweet but ignores his other writings. In fairness to his body of work I’m suggesting that he’s not principled about worrying about political interference in colleges. Because he isn’t.
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Replying to @Sebastian_Hols @jholbo1 and
Specifically he doesn’t care about a Board political non-interference principle. Overruling the well researched hundred page report on the SAT, in the largest public system in the US, is clearly more impactful than a single tenure decision in a mid rate university.
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I don't think there's a generally recognized principle that Boards are not supposed to 'do any politics', insofar as policy is politics of a sort. But there are recognized bright line norms about hiring and tenure. 'More impactful' isn't the issue.
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Exactly. The whole system of academic freedom is about faculty rights to hire, promote & do research free of interference. I think California board wrong in this case but admissions (in schools supported by tax dollars!) is a broad political remit.
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Neither of you are being realistic about how these play out in the real world. If you want to defend tenure, you can’t support ridiculous firings in every other job AND support a university system that actively refuses to hire conservatives AND overrules liberal studies.
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I'm sorry but this is a totally bogus argument. The point really is, narrowly, that free speech absolutists that shrug when bright lines are crossed obviously aren't. Also, are you in effecting asking me whether I would accept some utopian bargain that involves giving up tenure?
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No. I’m saying that you should fight for tenure. And doing that will probably involve fighting for a more general ethos of not over-politicizing jobs (where tenure can b a very specific type of a more general case). I’m saying you can’t succeed if the general ethos is...
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OK, if the thought is just that tenure protection is fine, but there should be more protection, what's the problem supposed to be with Jeet. I'm sure - but he can correct me - he's in favor of workplace protections from firings.
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Yes, absolutely. I want to end at will employment and extend speech protection beyond academia.
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