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    1. Jacob Remes‏ @jacremes 16 May 2021

      I'm struck by how debates over whether Trumpism is fascism or the Israeli system is apartheid are stuck in the realm of analogy, rather than category.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 16 May 2021
      Replying to @jacremes

      Historians -- and I want to be clear I love historians -- contributed to this problem.

      2 replies 1 retweet 36 likes
    3. Jacob Remes‏ @jacremes 16 May 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Say more? I'm sure we did--we contribute to most problems--but how in this instance?

      3 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 16 May 2021
      Replying to @jacremes

      I think some historians are very territorial about control of certain terms and resistant to thinking of fascism as a living (and evolving) category rather than a checklist of traits that emerged out of a conjuncture that will never be replicated.

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    5. Jacob Remes‏ @jacremes 16 May 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      I think that's right (although I note that the people who should be territorial of fascism--that is, historians of Fascism-with-a-capital-F--were not especially the ones who insisted on keeping the question in the realm of analogy).

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    6. Jacob Remes‏ @jacremes 16 May 2021
      Replying to @jacremes @HeerJeet

      But the question then to me becomes why doesn't this happen with other categories. For instance, why don't we see people saying "Israel isn't settler colonialism because it doesn't fit perfectly an analogy to 19th c. North America" or whatever?

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 16 May 2021
      Replying to @jacremes

      Both "fascism" and "apartheid" are categories that demand specific action (resistance or popular front, BDS) so people are hesitant to use.

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        1. Jacob Remes‏ @jacremes 16 May 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Genocide, another category that demands action, is an interesting middle ground. People argue somewhat categorically, but behind it looms the Holocaust as ur-genocide, so the analogy always looms behind the category.

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        1. Vincent Calvetti‏ @YakovKonPena 17 May 2021
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          I pointed out to a friend a few years ago that liberal zionists were much more comfortable talking about Israeli society as "increasingly fascist" than they were with "apartheid." This was even more part of the discourse in Israel & eventually appropriated as a joke by the Rightpic.twitter.com/ZEQO5kOx5Z

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