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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      6. Stuff like "the anti-life equation" & "the motherbox" in the Justice League are just generic fantasy McGuffins (like the Infinity Stone in the MCU). But in context they referenced the politics of reactionary fear that Kirby thought thwarted human flourishing.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      8. Darkseid, the villain pursues his goal of domination in alliance with very specific social types: Glorious Godfrey (a televangelist who stirs up hatred of minorities and sexual liberals) and Billion Dollar Bates, a plutocratic lech.pic.twitter.com/Fq9hUCT6Dn

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      9. According to Mark Evanier, who during the early 1970s was Kirby's assistant, creation of Darkseid & Glorious Godfrey was influenced by Nixon and Billy Graham, who Kirby believed were allied anti-Semites. (Subsequent White House tapes verified this fear).pic.twitter.com/sjE2CEeUaB

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      10. Glorious Godfrey helms a vigilante group called the Justifiers who dress in crusader garb and target an unnamed minority group (in scenes that call to mind Kristallnacht) as well as libraries with "decadent" books.pic.twitter.com/KIuFrC5ZJa

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      11. Godfrey's Justifiers are also suicide bombers. I think in creating a group of medieval garbed religious fanatics Kirby could have been influenced by the "Sons of Thunder" -- a group created by L. Brent Bozell which attacked abortion clinics.pic.twitter.com/C5j1P4hAUc

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      12. Arrayed against Darkseid & his alliance of plutocracy with religious fanaticism are various manifestations of Oedipal rebellion, in the form of the Forever People (hippies), Mister Miracle (the artist who escapes) & Orion (the rebellious son).pic.twitter.com/W7x8u2d1ct

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      13. The thematics of Oedipal rebellion (Darkseid's main opponent is his son Orion) brings Freud into conversation & the Fourth World is fairly explicitly Freudian, with a science fiction twist ("The Battle of the ID" where the ID is a literal monster).pic.twitter.com/dwYZealZ27

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      14. The Mother Box is very much part of the Freudian thematics Kirby was exploring. In the movie, Mother Boxes are just easter eggs (like the Infinity Stone). In Kirby's narrative they are attempt to imagine a technological response to Freudian family drama.

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      15. A Mother Box, in Kirby's narrative, is a handheld AI that offers psychological, spiritual and medical relief: a super-smart iPhone: A substitute mom in a world where biological reality has been erased (the high tech world of both New Gods & Darkseid).pic.twitter.com/lNMTZhANSf

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    10. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      16. In other words, the Mother Box is also suggestive distillation of social critique. That's all lost in Synder's Justice League. I'm not sure how any of this could be adapted short of a multi-year miniseries.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 27 Mar 2021

      17. All of which is to say I really hope people read Kirby's Fourth World books (available in multiple reprint iterations) which have a richness that has yet to be fully mined.

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        1. tatere. 🦑‏ @tatere 27 Mar 2021
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          Interesting to look at the King/Gerads MISTER MIRACLE from this perspective.

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        1. Charles R. Rutledge‏ @CRRutledge2 27 Mar 2021
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          Well said. Jack's work was so deep and rich, it still resonates all these years later.

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        1. Erik Jensen‏Verified account @erikjensen123 27 Mar 2021
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          ping ping ping very interesting read. big 4th world fan. thoroughly enjoyed this thread.

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        2. KingOfPies‏ @RegalPastry 27 Mar 2021
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          So the Hunger Dogs graphic novel really never finished the saga? It has been years since I read it. And that was prior to DC ramping up Darkseid as a foil and part of a toy line. So, for the past decade or so I have tried to find the orig series to read in order, if possible

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        3. KingOfPies‏ @RegalPastry 27 Mar 2021
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          What gets me about the story is just the sheer creative output. The guy just made so much in what was a relatively short span of time. He sure as heck did more than those who mine the characters he made during the 1970s. And then there is the Jimmy Olson/ Superman entry pt angle

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        1. Now He Sings‏ @nowhesobs 27 Mar 2021
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          Lol nerd Seriously though, interesting thread

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        2. AbhiDhabi5‏ @AbhiDhabi5 27 Mar 2021
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          Best take I’ve read on the Snyder Cut. @threadreaderapp unroll

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        3. Thread Reader App‏ @threadreaderapp 27 Mar 2021
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          Namaste, the unroll you asked for: 1. So, god help us all, I have a few thoughts on the Synder Cut, Jack… https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1375878442764267524.html … See you soon. 🤖

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        1. Leo Fosse‏ @FosseLeo 27 Mar 2021
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          I always follow your Kirby threads, hoping one might change my poor opinion. Negatives: Slapdash anatomy, reliance on quality inkers like Joe Sinnott, boring big machines, flat women's faces, a druggy prose style, and not good druggy like PKD. Positive: Superb action scenes.

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        1. MF CORN NUTS‏ @EddieMcstriplin 27 Mar 2021
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          Mmm. Zack snyder should direct something like spawn not kirby

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