Some people have noticed that the woman (Bridget McBruiser, an example of Irish depravity from Samuel Wells' 1866 New Physiognomy) looks like the Grinch. That's not an accident.pic.twitter.com/Z1Oq2aezjl
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Some people have noticed that the woman (Bridget McBruiser, an example of Irish depravity from Samuel Wells' 1866 New Physiognomy) looks like the Grinch. That's not an accident.pic.twitter.com/Z1Oq2aezjl
One compelling argument made by @philnel is that Dr. Seuss used ethnic stereotypes not just for human characters but also as the basis of various fanciful or anthropomorphic creations like The Grinch & Cat in the Hat.pic.twitter.com/uL9lurkER4
This is not - I want to be clear on this - an argument for delisting or cancelling the Grinch or Cat in the Hat. The stereotypes they were built on are so distant & suppressed that they are really invisible (or almost so) to contemporary readers. But it's good history to know
Jeet Heer Retweeted Jezz Hates Things
So, something I didn't know:the simian Irish imagery continued for as long as X-Men #28 (1967) with The Banshee. (Created by Roy Thomas and Werner Roth).https://twitter.com/Jezzerat/status/1373149788586319874 …
Jeet Heer added,
It’s odd that they are linking him visually with a primate but at the same time making him a sophisticated appreciator of fine art.
Doesnt the X-Men picture imply that the features were not considered “simian” but merely stereotypical? Intended to denote iconic features but not to denigrate. It seems the simian association is applied afterward by later generations with a different iconic language.
Nope, the simian stuff was explicit and deliberate in the Victorian era. This is the definitive book on this: https://www.amazon.com/Apes-Angels-Irishman-Victorian-Caricature/dp/1560987332 …
Then what do we make of the John Tenniel illustrations for the Lewis Carroll books? Are the Red Queen and Duchess supposed to be Irish?pic.twitter.com/PHzK0Hecke
Are we really expected to believe that Theodor Geisel and Roy Thomas (Native American, Canadian penciler of the X-Men) were trying to denigrate the Irish with their drawings? If not, what is the point you’re making by waving around these old drawings?
Roy Thomas is the writer, not the artist. Nether Geisel nor Thomas are Native American or Canadian. The point was about how older visual forms are repurposed by artists. Read the whole thread.
Werner Roth was born in 1921. So he wouldn’t have grown up in the heyday of anti-Irish sentiment, but he was a generation closer to it than Roy (born in 1940). It’s likely Roth just wanted to communicate “Irish,” and that was the input he’d had, so it was the output he delivered.
Later artists may have just been playing off Roth’s visual as “the way the character looked.” Even Neal Adams used a (much-muted) version of that face.pic.twitter.com/h6A7b3f49U
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