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    1. Matt Glassman‏ @MattGlassman312 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MattGlassman312 @marcidale and

      Like @jbview, I'd really like a system that 1) allows a determined, intense minority to defeat a lukewarm majority; but *also* 2) allows a determined majority to defeat a determined minority. Getting to that spot is extremely difficult, both procedurally and politically.

      6 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
    2. Jonathan Bernstein‏Verified account @jbview 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MattGlassman312 @marcidale and

      I think procedurally it can be done. But I also don't think there are half a dozen Senators who want that outcome.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Mr. Nick Beaudrot‏ @nbeaudrot 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @jbview @MattGlassman312 and

      The idea Jeff Merkley spitballed with Ezra Klein in 2010 was to actually have a failure to keep more than N Senators on the floor (with N possibly increasing over time) represent the end of debate. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/12/sen_jeff_merkley_this_isnt_a_q.html …pic.twitter.com/YjEh3V8sM7

      2 replies 2 retweets 2 likes
    4. Norman Ornstein‏Verified account @NormOrnstein 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @nbeaudrot @jbview and

      Requiring 41 to end debate can be coupled with requiring 41 to be on the floor or to respond to a quorum call

      2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    5. Matt Glassman‏ @MattGlassman312 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @NormOrnstein @nbeaudrot and

      We still have to count to 41, though. So I assume this means empowering the chair to make an unappealable unilateral decision? I'm not sure even *majority* Senators are ready to hand that much power to VP.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Matt Glassman‏ @MattGlassman312 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MattGlassman312 @NormOrnstein and

      Any other method of counting will necessitate at least one roll call vote, which would defeat the whole purpose.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Norman Ornstein‏Verified account @NormOrnstein 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @MattGlassman312 @nbeaudrot and

      You can get votes at 4 in the morning; require them to be in town on weekends/Mondays, with short notice. If several are unable to show up, you can prevail. You eliminate the obstruction on minor measures. You get a spotlight on major issues. like universal background checks

      3 replies 4 retweets 6 likes
    8. Norman Ornstein‏Verified account @NormOrnstein 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @NormOrnstein @MattGlassman312 and

      There are ways of increasing pain, especially with 14 up for reelection who want to be back home campaigning, and you can craft a rule that requires them to be present on the floor to continue debate. Not perfect, of course. No guarantee of succession. Infinitely better than now!

      2 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
    9. Jonathan Bernstein‏Verified account @jbview 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @NormOrnstein @MattGlassman312 and

      I agree with the logic of shifting the burden; I just don't really think it would matter in practice (except for the cases with a long-term absent Senator and a slim margin). Beyond that? I no longer think a long-term compromise is possible, so....

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Jonathan Bernstein‏Verified account @jbview 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @jbview @NormOrnstein and

      I no longer see the point in shooting various holes in the current situation *unless* it's a path for Manchin et al. to get where the Senate eventually wants to go.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @jbview @NormOrnstein and

      Manchin will obviously need to do a big Kabuki dance to shift his position. It's fair enough to give him that as long as the endgoal is reached.

      9:20 AM - 9 Mar 2021
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        2. Jonathan Bernstein‏Verified account @jbview 9 Mar 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @NormOrnstein and

          Yes, of course. Just saying that "What's the path for Manchin to get from here to there?" is a totally different conversation than "What's a good way to run the Senate?"

          1 reply 4 retweets 18 likes
        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 Mar 2021
          Replying to @jbview @NormOrnstein and

          Agreed!

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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