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    1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @speechboy71 @JamesSurowiecki

      At the very least, the janitor jumped to a very hasty conclusion that this Black person was suspicious simply because were in a room he didn't expect them to be in.

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    2. Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki

      Again, you're jumping to that conclusion! I don't know why this janitor did what he did but it takes an incredible leap - and ignoring many other explanations - to argue that he did this out of racial bias

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @speechboy71 @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki

      I don't know if you spend much time around college campuses but in my experience students hang out a lot in marginal places to get quiet time. To automatically assume someone is out of place without determining if they are a student seems very, very, very odd.

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    4. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 @beyerstein

      It's not very, very odd if you think it's a man at a women's college, in a place where you've never seen students before.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @speechboy71 @beyerstein

      The gender misidentification is itself a tell.

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    6. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 @beyerstein

      How can it be a tell, since we have no idea what the student was wearing or what her legs looked like? Also, for what it's worth, the cop said that when he and the janitor talked after the incident, the janitor said he didn't know the person was black when he called it in.

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    7. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet @speechboy71

      We do know something about what the student was wearing that day: Dressed for the gym in the summer. And that she's a 5'2" female in her late teens.

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    8. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki and

      Don't you think it's weird that the janitor specifically told the cop he didn't know the person's race, but that he specifically told the investigators that he did? Why is his story changing?

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    9. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @HeerJeet @speechboy71

      I don't know, because he had no obvious incentive to tell the investigators that he knew the person was black. I actually wonder if, because race became so salient, he just retrospectively "remembered" that he had been able to tell the person was black, even though he hadn't.

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    10. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @beyerstein and

      But that might be totally wrong.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @beyerstein @speechboy71

      I'm not really interested in the janitor, who was following rules set by others, as by Smith and the Times. When I read the Times article I just assumed it was accurate but Lindsay brings up a whole lot of big missing facts that should have been there.

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        1. Mike Albanese‏ @MikeAlbanese 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

          The Janitor has been working at the college for 35 years. Does he have a history of singling out Black students? If so, time to go. If not, I believe he has earned the benefit of the doubt.

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        2. Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki @beyerstein

          Just want to clarify that this whole discussion began because Lindsey described what happened in the incident in ways that were not consistent with Times article or the report itself.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @speechboy71 @JamesSurowiecki @beyerstein

          Right, but even allowing for corrections to what she originally wrote, there's plenty in the report that should make one skeptical of the Times' reporting (and I say this as someone who took the Times report at face value when I read it.

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