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    1. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @speechboy71

      That's the janitor's testimony to the investigators who put together the Report, not what he said to the Dispatcher.

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    2. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @speechboy71

      Right, the janitor volunteered to the investigators that he could see she was Black from her legs. It doesn't matter whether he passed that on to the dispatcher, only that he knew she was Black when he called.

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    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @speechboy71

      I don't know why you think it doesn't matter, since if the main reason he was calling was because of the person's race, then it seems odd he wouldn't have mentioned it. But regardless, "the dispatcher's report" did not state "a black man was lying on the couch."

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    4. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @speechboy71

      It establishes that he knew she was Black when he decided she was "suspicious" and "out-of-place." Nobody comes right out and says, "I called because there was a Black person on the couch."

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    5. Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki

      But she was suspicious and out-of-place. That's why he called security

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    6. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @speechboy71 @beyerstein

      I actually think an important part of the story is that the janitor thought "he" was suspicious and out of place, because he believed it was a man in a dorm in a women's college.

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    7. Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @beyerstein

      The report says that staff were told to call security! That's what he did.

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    8. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @speechboy71 @JamesSurowiecki

      The Building Supervisor, his boss, said that that staff had the option of approaching the person or at least getting a look at them before deciding they were "suspicious." The janitor chose not to do that.

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    9. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @speechboy71 @JamesSurowiecki

      At the very least, the janitor jumped to a very hasty conclusion that this Black person was suspicious simply because were in a room he didn't expect them to be in.

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    10. Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki

      Again, you're jumping to that conclusion! I don't know why this janitor did what he did but it takes an incredible leap - and ignoring many other explanations - to argue that he did this out of racial bias

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
      Replying to @speechboy71 @beyerstein @JamesSurowiecki

      I don't know if you spend much time around college campuses but in my experience students hang out a lot in marginal places to get quiet time. To automatically assume someone is out of place without determining if they are a student seems very, very, very odd.

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        2. John‏ @johnlk_80 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 and

          It was during the summer, in a closed dorm, next to a dining area that was being reserved for actual schoolchildren. The point I took from the article was that a student would in fact be out of place in that context.

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        3. John‏ @johnlk_80 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @johnlk_80 @HeerJeet and

          The other thing is that *nothing fucking happened*. A security guard came and had a brief chat with her!

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        1. Darrell  🇺🇦‏ @BlackMadness317 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 and

          The article says the place was off limits to all students and that the school policy is to call security rather than approach.

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        2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 @beyerstein

          It's not very, very odd if you think it's a man at a women's college, in a place where you've never seen students before.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @speechboy71 @beyerstein

          The gender misidentification is itself a tell.

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        1. Lindsay Beyerstein‏ @beyerstein 25 Feb 2021
          Replying to @HeerJeet @speechboy71 @JamesSurowiecki

          And the janitor's claim that he was suspicious because the room was un-airconditioned reeks of a retrospective justification.

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