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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 Dec 2020

      ICYMI: My thoughts on Mank, Citizen Kane & the contradictions of the Hollywood left.https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/mank-welles-mankiewicz-kane/ …

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    2. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      "cinematic flare" - or is it flair? I understand your text is intended as something of a corrective for the critics' traditional oversight of the political dimension. But an overtly political Kane as you describe it would definitely be nowhere near as interesting as it is.

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    3. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      An overtly political film would not have drawn Kane such as he is shown: a profoundly tragic figure, more or less trapped by class conventions into a hollow, unhappy life he attempts to fill by material acquisition and power over others. Whatever he is, he's not a figure of scorn

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    4. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      I find it more satisfying to see Welles as first and foremost a humanist, and Kane a film in the same lineage as The Trial and Chimes at Midnight. While he was definitely a liberal progressive, the politics you ascribe to him would probably have bored him in large doses.

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    5. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      Yes, and part of the genius of Kael’s essay (to me, anyway) is that she gets this just right. Kane is a film of the ironists of the 1920s and 30s, very different from the Popular Front.

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    6. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @mnemosyneous @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      But I understood Jeet’s essay to be on Mank as a corrective for a view of the film as purely formal. It surely did have a political intent.

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    7. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @mnemosyneous @HeerJeet

      To some extent it probably did, but I'm not sure how much. My understanding (I have yet to see Mank, but I did see the old RKO 281 and read Kael's essay, which I have in book form) was that there was first and foremost some personal slight between Mank/Welles and Hearst.

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    8. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @mnemosyneous @HeerJeet

      Oh, and for that matter, what was a "Popular Front" filmmaker in the US anyway? The whole thing with the Popular Front in Europe is that it *failed*, while by the time Kane was released FDR was on a third term of office. Even Frank Capra was getting long-winded by that time.

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    9. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @mnemosyneous @HeerJeet

      The only example I can think of of a clear Popular Front filmmaker who also had the ironic touch to approach Welles' is the Renoir of The Rules of the Game. But the context is so different that I'm hesitant to even bring him up.

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    10. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 22 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      For "Popular Front" perhaps read "WPA playwright/muralist." They didn't get to make many Hollywood films. But they express a very politically didactic approach to art, one that was consciously anti-Hollywood in some ways.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Dec 2020
      Replying to @mnemosyneous @Vetarnias

      Sigh. This is a view of Popular Front art that is based on hostile stereotypes. In fact it was much more complicated than that. The Denning book I cite in my piece is a very useful corrective to the hostile stereotype.

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        2. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 22 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @mnemosyneous

          I haven't read the Denning, but I'm already skeptical of the use of "Popular Front" to describe America, whereas in Europe the term made sense to denote an alliance of circumstance between Communists, Socialists, and liberals. The WPA may have made possible art much further to...

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        3. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 22 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet @mnemosyneous

          ...the left than could have been fostered by private enterprise (that would quash it either out of ideological or commercial considerations), but I would be hard pressed to denote any explicit mainstream political endorsement of these radical tendencies, even from large unions.

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        2. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 22 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Vetarnias

          Jeet, at the risk of getting into "Annie Hall"-Marshall McLuhan territory, I have actually written and taught the FTP, WPA films, etc. As for the connection to Citizen Kane, you're going to have to be more specific. Some of it is nuanced. Some of it is, yes, unbearably didactic.

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        3. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 22 Dec 2020
          Replying to @mnemosyneous @HeerJeet @Vetarnias

          Ofc Welles was intimately connected to the FTP. But the bigger point is that Kane is ambiguous enough for the argument over its "true meaning" to continue, which is not something you can say for "Revenge of the Beavers," "It Can't Happen Here," etc.

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        2. That Fuzzy Bastard‏ @thefuzzybastard 22 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @mnemosyneous @Vetarnias

          Anyone who doesn’t recognize how tediously didactic Popular Front art was will never again get to read Joyce, only Dos Passos’ USA trilogy. And if they keep talking, they have to read the back half of Native Son aloud

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        3. Stupidity Patrol‏ @mnemosyneous 23 Dec 2020
          Replying to @thefuzzybastard @HeerJeet @Vetarnias

          💯. And yes, U.S.A. is a perfect example. It's not like we don't know what political art from the 1930s looks like. Nobody would write an essay on "the hidden politics of The Grapes of Wrath."

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