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    1. RiShawn Biddle‏ @dropoutnation 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey and

      That's a meaningless statement. In a highly polarized period that features rampant vote suppression by the GOP, Biden won several of those key states and flipped two (Arizona and Biden). All by higher margins than Trump's in 2016. So, really, James, try some other argument.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    2. RiShawn Biddle‏ @dropoutnation 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @dropoutnation @JamesSurowiecki and

      Biden's margin of 154,000 votes is greater than Trump's 10,704 in 2016. Biden's margin of 98,000 votes in Pennsylvania is greater than Trump's 44,292 in 2016. Really, what are you arguing here, James?

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @dropoutnation @ijbailey and

      I’m arguing that Biden’s margin of victory in AZ, NV, WI, MI, and PA was far smaller than it should have been, given whom he was running against.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @dropoutnation and

      Really? There's no reason to think beating Trump would have been easy. Incumbent presidents are hard to beat. Trump's celebrity brings out many marginal voters. Fed Reserve easy money + generous stimulus helped him on economy. Covid led to rally behind leader with some voters.

      2 replies 1 retweet 26 likes
    5. Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

      Last time I'll bug you about this, I swear! But how can you possibly concede to these points, which are absolutely right, and *not* understand why this shows that it was crucial to win over moderate and suburban whites to ultimately prevail?

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ThePlumLineGS @JamesSurowiecki and

      I think Biden followed one of the few plausible strategies that could have defeated Trump. There might have been other strategies, but Biden's worked. But it also came at a cost, as seen by down ballot results.

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    7. Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

      Okay. If you think this was one of the few paths but w/costs, that's reasonable. I would (genuinely) like to understand what role the Biden strategy played in downballot losses. My guess is it's more structural: Trumpy turnout lifted Rs who held a few swing voters Trump didn't.

      5 replies 4 retweets 16 likes
    8. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ThePlumLineGS @HeerJeet and

      I still don't understand how Biden's strategy contributed to downballot losses, given the general increase in Dem turnout. How would a different strategy have helped swing-district Democrats win?

      4 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ThePlumLineGS and

      One of Biden's big argument -- used to win over Never Trump Republicans -- is that problem is only Trump, not GOP & once Trump is gone, GOP will be a normal party. That's a terrific argument for voting for Biden & down ballot GOP.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    10. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @ThePlumLineGS and

      As everyone's been saying to me, what's the evidence that that had any impact at all on whom voters voted for?

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ThePlumLineGS and

      The election results where Biden outperformed down ballot Dems!

      1:12 PM - 2 Dec 2020
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        1. David Teich‏ @Davidzteich 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

          I see no compelling evidence that right-leaning voters were so receptive to Biden's rhetoric in general that if he had simply attacked the GOP more broadly he could have convinced them to vote for down-ballot Dems. Maybe he just would have alienated them and lost his own votes.

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        2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @ThePlumLineGS and

          That's just evidence that Trump was uniquely unpopular, not that a different strategy would have helped downballot Dems do better. There were plenty of districts where Dem candidates tried to tie their opponents to Trump - was that strategy generally effective?

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        3. Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet and

          And a lot of these were likely Republican-leaning voters. We're talking (mostly) about districts that are very, very closely divided.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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