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    1. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @whstancil

      Was thinking more AOC and Ilhan Omar, as well as a wide range of liberal organizations, all of whom made sure Democrats generally were widely associated in the public mind with the slogan "defund the police."

      15 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil

      Did AOC and Omar run on "defund the police"? Also there are literally thousands of liberal organizations in USA. Is it possible to gag all of them so they won't say "defund the police"?

      5 replies 0 retweets 39 likes
    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @whstancil

      Who’s talking about gagging? People should say what they want. I’m just saying they should stop pretending it didn’t cost Democrats votes around the country.

      6 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet @whstancil

      Can you point to the evidence for this claim? Any evidence? At all?

      1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
    5. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ijbailey @HeerJeet @whstancil

      Everyone asks for “evidence,” then when that evidence is provided - like focus-group results, and the fact that GOP candidates spent heavily on ads tying their opponents to the slogan - everyone says, “That doesn’t count.”

      9 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey and

      I guess you can argue that GOP candidates who win in swing districts had no idea what message would resonate with voters, but that seems a little improbable.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet @whstancil

      In 2018, we were told Dems in these swing districts won because they were moderate. In 2020, they were still moderate - but lost.

      2 replies 5 retweets 31 likes
    8. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ijbailey @HeerJeet @whstancil

      Yes, and what changed between 2018 and 2020 to make it harder for moderate Dems to win? Just look at GOP ads - socialism and defunding the police.

      20 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @HeerJeet @whstancil

      So the MS-13 and very scary caravans and socialism stuff didn't work in 2018 but did in November? I remember when McCain was labeling Obama socialist and a scary black dude palling around with terrorists. Yet he still won. Why?

      1 reply 0 retweets 26 likes
    10. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ijbailey @HeerJeet @whstancil

      Because those charges were false. That high-profile Dems advocated defunding the police was true.

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey @whstancil

      That's only true if you accept GOP messaging about who counts as high profile Dems. It was an absurd lie and Dems were too incompetent to refute.

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        2. Donald Newell‏ @donaldknewell 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and

          There is no evidence that Defund the Police cost any votes. The argument really isn’t between AOC and a democrat who lost a marginal house seat in a red district. That person would’ve lost if the slogan was Police Are Our BFFs. With no evidence VIP accept DtP was a losing slogan.

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        3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @donaldknewell @HeerJeet and

          What would count as”evidence” to you?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Will Stancil‏ @whstancil 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey

          there's also just no evidence it mattered. there's always an attack, be it Pelosi, the ACA, death panels, caravans, the swamp, deplorables. but results are overwhelmingly driven by predictable structural factors.

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        3. Will Stancil‏ @whstancil 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @whstancil @HeerJeet and

          but then Politics Knowers like James turn around every time and ascribe the results to the attacks. it's like the guy who has to a domino's pizza every sunday because the one time he did it his team won big

          0 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
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