Was thinking more AOC and Ilhan Omar, as well as a wide range of liberal organizations, all of whom made sure Democrats generally were widely associated in the public mind with the slogan "defund the police."
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Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @whstancil
Did AOC and Omar run on "defund the police"? Also there are literally thousands of liberal organizations in USA. Is it possible to gag all of them so they won't say "defund the police"?
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Replying to @HeerJeet @whstancil
Who’s talking about gagging? People should say what they want. I’m just saying they should stop pretending it didn’t cost Democrats votes around the country.
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Can you point to the evidence for this claim? Any evidence? At all?
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Everyone asks for “evidence,” then when that evidence is provided - like focus-group results, and the fact that GOP candidates spent heavily on ads tying their opponents to the slogan - everyone says, “That doesn’t count.”
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Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey and
I guess you can argue that GOP candidates who win in swing districts had no idea what message would resonate with voters, but that seems a little improbable.
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Yes, I'm arguing that candidates often don't know what will work - even when they win. And I'm still waiting on any evidence - at all - that a single vote changed because of defund the police.
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Replying to @ASFried @JamesSurowiecki and
This is not the first time Republicans have lied about Democratic candidates in swing districts. As was just pointed out, in '18, it was MS-13 and the very, scary caravan - and Dems still won in those swing districts. Swing districts swing. Why is it so hard to accept that now?
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Because there’s no measure by which Republican challengers were in a better position to win in 2020.
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Yes there were measures: Trump turned out many marginal GOP voters & Biden appealed to Never Trump Republicans (who were more likely to split ticket): thus both candidates maximized GOP vote in way that hurt down ballot Dems.
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Replying to @HeerJeet @JamesSurowiecki and
also, OF COURSE the unpopular incumbent's party is better-positioned in a general than a midterm, where you have more lopsided turnout based on party enthusiasm, this happens literally every four-year cycle
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Replying to @whstancil @HeerJeet and
You guys are centering the white suburbs but defund the police had a lot more to do with why they lost the Rio Grande, Dade County and didn't turn out the machine in cities than it had to do with Maine.
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