gabe I think comparing Lula to Marion Barry is wrong and bad
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What Obama has never understood is that corruption gets rewarded politically if it actually delivers to constituent needs.
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And, conversely, if you dismantle corruption without providing some means to account for those same constituent needs, what you’ll get is no less corrupt, far less stable, and substantially less liberal.
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Yes, that too.but I feel ambivalent about pointing to U.S. Corruption in these conversations because it feels too much like the Trump era narrative that the U.S. becoming like those "other" countries and thus legitimating the premise that corruption can justify disenfranchisement
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This is like if Lula would have written a book and mentioned Obama and legitimized the birtherism conspiracy theories.
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