yeah my OP tried to say that in a nutshell
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Replying to @AliceFromQueens @gabrielwinant
Sorry, I just re-read it and realized that. I thought the pinning on Trump point though might be overlooking the even more damning point that if we took the stats and the systemic point that Gabe is making, it would lead to almost the opposite conclusion of what Gabe wants to say
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Replying to @CoreyRobin @gabrielwinant
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Oh for sure. Worth emphasizing anyway the political effects of Trump-the-signular-fascist claims could be perverse or at least neutral. (
@dbessner said this elsewhere in this web of threads) Not sure if saw this part below. No one remembers MS-13!https://twitter.com/AliceFromQueens/status/1322995526627975168 …Alice added,
Alice @AliceFromQueensIn 2016, Trump campaigned on MS-13 as a rising threat. In office he could have tried to push through a "tough on gangs" law that would have led to intensified federal incarceration. Trump didn't even consider it, afaik. Or any anti-crime bill. And fed incarceration *declined* https://twitter.com/AliceFromQueens/status/1322991043588038656 …2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes -
absolutely. in fact, he wound up signing the first step act, which is supposed to reduce federal incarceration rates. (tom cotton opposed it.)
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Yeah if you want to talk about a real fascist threat...
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The guy has the charisma of a doorknob. I don't see it happening. Reminds me of how Hannah Arendt ended a part Origins of Totalitarianism by warning of an even worse totalitarianism to come in the form of Molotov. Never really happened.
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Replying to @gabrielwinant @CoreyRobin and
If Carlson wants the GOP nomination in 2024 or 2028, I think he has a good shot at it.
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Replying to @HeerJeet @gabrielwinant and
More focus on the GOP as an authoritarian/minoritarian/libertarian—state violence hybrid is what’s important here. Trump added super corruption and even more authoritarianism, but the party enables him. The party is the danger.
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I agree with that but the minoritarian game-plan makes abnormally charismatic presidential candidates more crucial for the GOP than for Dems
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That's true, although I'll note that the Dems won with Bill Clinton & Obama (two of the most charismatic politicians in memory) and lost with Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, and Hillary Clinton (none of whom, I think, can be accused of an excess of charisma).
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Replying to @xlorentzen @AliceFromQueens and
Not my job to offer false hope. In any case, if Biden wins he'll finally vindicate the Democrats long preference for boring candidates.
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