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    1. Peli Grietzer‏ @peligrietzer 22 Oct 2020

      Peli Grietzer Retweeted ericlinuskaplan

      Wow good questionhttps://twitter.com/ericlinuskaplan/status/1319127424064319488 …

      Peli Grietzer added,

      ericlinuskaplan @ericlinuskaplan
      why did the Coen Bros. go after the notion of politically engaged art in Barton Fink in 1991?
      5 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    2. Carl Wilson‏ @carlzoilus 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @peligrietzer

      They didn't go after the notion of politically engaged art! The movie is about the politically engaged artist being hired away by Hollywood and losing his soul. Wow, the whole concept of "selling out" as a storyline really has become that opaque, huh?

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @carlzoilus @peligrietzer

      Are you suggesting Wallace Beery wrestling picture's aren't political art???!!????

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Evan Kindley‏ @evankindley 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @carlzoilus @peligrietzer

      Surely they're treating the notion of "selling out"—and the idea that Fink's political art is any good at all—with irony, though?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Carl Wilson‏ @carlzoilus 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @evankindley @HeerJeet @peligrietzer

      Sure, they're treating everything with irony because they're the Coen Bros. They tell their selling-out story ironically to avoid any risk they could in turn sell out by having something sincere to lose. Simple 90s-culture math.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Evan Kindley‏ @evankindley 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @carlzoilus @HeerJeet @peligrietzer

      I think that's one layer of it but I feel like it's impossible not to read Barton (and by extension Clifford Odets) as a deluded buffoon, and his fear of selling out as a red herring. I think they were ahead of the "selling out is actually ok" cultural curve!

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    7. Carl Wilson‏ @carlzoilus 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @evankindley @HeerJeet @peligrietzer

      I think it's smarter to bet the Coens loved & respected Clifford Odets and thought it would be a great tribute to write a version of him as a deluded buffoon. (The Llewyn Davis parallel is good: It would be misreading that movie to say it's about how dumb folk music was.)

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    8. Evan Kindley‏ @evankindley 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @carlzoilus @HeerJeet @peligrietzer

      Fair, but I think Fink is much more obviously satirized than Davis

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    9. Evan Kindley‏ @evankindley 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @evankindley @carlzoilus and

      also Davis (as far as I can recall?) is apolitical; that appears to be one of the things they like about him?

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Oct 2020
      Replying to @evankindley @carlzoilus @peligrietzer

      Davis literally doesn't know what a Shachtmanite is. Not sure if we're supposed to admire that -- it's part of him being isolated and misanthropic.

      11:24 AM - 22 Oct 2020
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        2. Evan Kindley‏ @evankindley 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @carlzoilus @peligrietzer

          Hmm not sure… it could just be a sign of him not getting caught up in pedantic micro-distinctions? (Cards on the table, I don't know what a Shactmanite is either)

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @evankindley @carlzoilus @peligrietzer

          Well if you were in a union (as Davis tries to be) or part of political music circle in early 60s you'd know what a Shachtmanite is! The point is Davis is a natural isolate, a loner, which cuts him off from solidarity of music & politics (he lost partner & refuses to join band)

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