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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 Oct 2020

    There's some conflation between punishment and mockery going on. There's plenty of human behavior which should not be punished but generates mockery. Conversely some things that deserve punishment are beyond mockery. Mockery isn't really punishment but an expression of opinion.

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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 Oct 2020

        It's kind of amazing to see the overlap between people who are opposed to cancel culture, PC etc and those trying to shame people for being amused by an inherently absurd story. The impulse to laugh in such a situation is inherent in what it is to be human, for good or ill.

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      3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 Oct 2020

        Laugher in a socially absurd situation can be punishment but it can also be the path to reconciliation: a way of making light of something that when viewed clinically might be disturbing. Jokes are also a way of saying "this is ridiculous but not a crime." It's complex!

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      1. JJS‏ @Jjs24Jjs 20 Oct 2020
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        can we move on?

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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 Oct 2020
        Replying to @ScottGenzink

        Mockery can have an element of social sanction but not necessarily so --its often about the shock of the unexpected. The classic pie-in-the-face isn't about social sanction but something more primordial (the disruption of norms).

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      2. mspaint skull‏ @WordOfZac 20 Oct 2020
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        Pretty empty philosophical exercise unless you’re gonna provide examples

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      3. zach‏ @zamartin 20 Oct 2020
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        He’s talking about Toobin accidentally jerking it on zoom.

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      1. Edmund Edgar‏ @edmundedgar 20 Oct 2020
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        This tweet shows the power of subtweeting can be used for good

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      1. Chigbo Ikejiani  💉 💉  💉‏ @DallanInvictus 20 Oct 2020
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        I would argue that the issue is more an overlap than a conflation: public mockery is A punishment, if a lesser one. Particularly at the scales now possible. I don't care about Toobin but let's not pretend that opinions express themselves. The choice to do so can be examined.

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      1. Unbreakable Peter‏ @Loki1001 20 Oct 2020
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        I am reasonably certain it has to do with the professional take-havers class finding mockery intolerable and having uniquely thin skin. Remember Bret Stephens and the bed bug incident? And so even when someone is caught masturbating during a meeting they have class solidarity.

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