if you understand dialectics, you know both are true and good https://twitter.com/profmusgrave/status/1317153341760307201 …
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Which one? I've read Up From Communism.
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reminds of that line in tinker tailor that’s something like “the true character of a nation is reflected in its secret services”
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You'd expect to Encounter them somewhere around the OSS/CIA at one point or another?
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